For the no impeachment crowd

[watoos]

When is the first hearing when we are going to learn mor?
Kline who gave Kushner his security clearance? Nope, a no show you say. He will be spanked right? Want to bet?
Today the IRS gives us Trump’s taxes. No? They ignored the subpoena?
Well we have McGahn to testify right? No? Trump is fighting that subpoena too?

Let me explain something, if we did impeachment we would be hearing about more impeachable evidence. Here’s the deal folks, if we started impeachment right now, a vote to impeach wouldn’t happen until the fall. What else is happening in November? Oh yeah, elections.

[uponit7771]

1. I think Pelosi wants to drag this out into election year like the KGOP did with Clinton, if that's

... the case I'm with that.

There's was nothing about the KGOP hearings that helped Clinton

But if it's to just excuse us away from impeachment then that's screwed up and we'll no doubt lose in 2020

[watoos]

5. Clinton wasn't up for re-election

Democrats lost the House, Senate, and presidency in the next election. How exactly did impeaching Clinton hurt Republicans?

[uponit7771]

6. Hillary Clinton

[watoos]

11. She volunteered to testify

Trump and Barr aren’t going to let anyone testify before Congress they will fight every subpoena

[Trumpocalypse]

2. BS

Everything can be accomplished by House investigations. Let Trump try to fight House subpoenas it will just drag the process out making Trump look guilty. No need to move on impeachment now. Let the investigations move the needle of public opinion during the next year.

[watoos]

7. Do you know how long it takes to

Settle a subpoena in the courts? President Obama fought a subpoena to release Fast and Furious information, it took 3 1/2 years.

Let me know when the first person testifies or when Trump releases his taxes or when Kline testifies, or when Barr releases the redacted grand jury information

[Trumpocalypse]

14. Which would be no different

if it were an impeachment hearing. A Congressional subpoena is a Congressional subpoena.

[watoos]

18. It is different

For one, Barr stated that he would release the grand jury testimony for an impeachment hearing
I don’t think that Trump and Barr have the same authority to stonewall impeachment witnesses
Correct me if I’m wrong. Even so, it sure wouldn’t look good for Trump to be challenging witnesses to his impeachment hearing

[Trumpocalypse]

24. A Congressional subpoena

is a Congressional subpoena whether it is for impeachment or not.

[wasupaloopa]

27. You believe Barr? Trump will thwart impeachment.

Trump holds all the cards. He has put his people in places he needs.

If only the Repubs join us we are wasting time!

[mcar]

3. Who is in the "No Impeachment" crowd?

I don't know any Democratic pol who is saying that.

[watoos]

8. We are running out of time

If we started impeachment tomorrow it would take till fall before a vote is taken. Debates start in 6 weeks.

[mcar]

10. You didn't answer my question

Who is in the "No Impeachment" crowd?

[watoos]

12. All of the people who say

Wait, we aren’t there yet.

[mcar]

13. That is obviously false

They aren't saying no impeachment. They are saying we're not there yet, let the hearings continue.

[watoos]

19. What hearings are there to continue?

[mcar]

20. What?

[TwilightZone]

22. Yeah, this is getting a little silly.

I don't know if some posters seriously don't know that investigations started as soon as we took the House and continue to the present or if they're just playing dumb for whatever reason.

I'm starting to understand why some of them keep claiming that the Dems never do anything.

[mcar]

25. Gotta keep the Zombie lies going

Even here.

[TwilightZone]

21. Don't be obtuse.

House Oversight, House Judiciary, House Financial Services, House Ways and Means, House Foreign Affairs...

...are all pursuing ongoing investigations.

http://time.com/5557644/donald-trump-other-investigations-mueller/

You seriously don't know about any of this?

[TwilightZone]

17. Fall? Highly unlikely.

Nixon's impeachment took about nine months from the start to the vote, and this will likely prove to significantly more complicated.

"Fall" is extraordinarily optimistic, unless you mean fall of 2020.

[Thomas Hurt]

4. I am all for impeachment hearings from now until Oct 2020.

We just aren't going to be rid of the fascist @$$ by impeachment proceedings.

Screw it, use the impeachment hearings as blatant political attacks on his character, his corrupt administration, and his dangerous ideology.

Impeachment hearings are Trump's due process........let the light in on the scandals.

[watoos]

9. I think we are on the same page.

But we have to call the hearings, impeachment hearings. Barr said he would release grand jury testimony for impeachment, subpoenas will have to be honored. Holding impeachment hearings is the only way to expose Trump’s crimes to the people

[SlogginThroughIt]

15. oh more of THAT propaganda....

Please don’t fall for the “Democrats are weak because they are too scared to bring articles of impeachment”.


That’s exactly the propaganda that people are using to sow distrust in Democrats... Again!

Had the Democrats brought impeachment there would be propaganda that they are hysterical and out of control.

There is no reason why we can’t turn these hearings and investigations into impeachment just like watergate. We don’t need to call it impeachment for it to be impeachment. No reason why we can’t let that cake bake a little more.

[Buffalo Soldier]

16. 100%

True

[stillcool]

23. here's a post you might..

find interesting:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=12040851

it isn't 'no impeachment', more of a slow and steady wins the race.

[wasupaloopa]

26. Trump is blocking all evidence. For the impeachment crowd

use your brain. Get a macro view.

We will look like wimps because we will be just wasting time.

The Senate will not convict trump.

We have no power with only the House.

Voting them out is our only real hope!