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watrwefitinfor

(1,399 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 11:03 AM Apr 2019

Investigation & Impeachment Committees & Barbara Jordan speaks on why Nixon must be impeached

I think there is some misunderstanding about how various committees function (functioned) in an impeachment situation. The House Judiciary Committee only considers impeachment when authorized by a House vote brought to the floor by the House Leader (Nancy).

But the committee hearings that many people remember and associate with the Nixon impeachment had begun a full year earlier than the House Judicial Committee Impeachment Hearings.

It was in February 1973 that the (Democratic majority) Senate established a Committee to investigate Watergate. It was chaired by "Senator Sam" Ervin, and it was hearings by this committee that were so broadly televised, and that elicited much of the testimony we associate now with Nixon's impeachment, including John Dean's testimony about the cancer on the president's office, the existence of the White House tapes, Senator Howard Baker's slow about-face on whether to impeach, and so much more.

The actual impeachment hearings by the Judicial Committee were authorized a full year later in February, 1974 (when the Senate Committee on Watergate finished their work) and the Judicial Impeachment Committee passed Articles of Impeachment in July, 1974. Those six months were largely filled with drilling into and sorting through the legal details of the nefarious acts uncovered by the Senate Committee. Many supoenas were issued and fought through the courts. It was when those and other legal matters were complete that the Articles of Impeachment were finalized and passed.

http://watergate.info/impeachment

In 2019, a serious Senate investigation regarding Trump is out of the question. A bipartisan Senate committee specially established to investigate Trump will not be allowed by McConnell, even if the Senate majority was in favor of one. That means all the investigation of Trump falls on the House standing committees.

And it is unlikely that these various committees, investigating various aspects of Trump's crap, will get the media attention the Senate Watergate Committee received. Perhaps when some "special" witness appeared. As a general rule though, we could see them streamed on C-Span, You Tube, etc., as we do now, but they would only be broadcast on Cable and Network tv for special "events".

I am not suggesting for a minute that is a reason not to impeach. (I actually favor impeaching this prick just as strongly as I favored impeaching Nixon.) I'm suggesting it will be a long, difficult haul. We need to understand what it will involve. We had giants in Congress in those days. Are our current leaders up to it? I truly do not know.

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This is a great site to learn more about the workings of impeachment, and the Nixon impeachment in some detail. Some of the Articles of Impeachment have a great similarity to how charges against Trump should look. Only Trump will have so many more!

Full Transcript Of The Judiciary Committee Hearings – July 24-30, 1974: http://watergate.info/1974/07/30/judiciary-committee-hearings.html

Full text of the Articles of Impeachment adopted by the House Judiciary Committee on July 27, 1974: http://watergate.info/impeachment/articles-of-impeachment

Also on this site are the video and full transcription of Rep. Barbara Jordan's incredible statement at the beginning of the Judicial Committee Impeachment Hearing on why Nixon MUST be impeached. It is a must-see video.

http://watergate.info/1974/07/25/barbara-jordan-speech-on-impeachment.html

Wat

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Investigation & Impeachment Committees & Barbara Jordan speaks on why Nixon must be impeached (Original Post) watrwefitinfor Apr 2019 OP
The House deliberations WILL be televised Thunderbeast Apr 2019 #1
Barbara Jordan Buffalo Soldier Apr 2019 #2
You don't need my permission to post the clip. watrwefitinfor Apr 2019 #3

Thunderbeast

(3,417 posts)
1. The House deliberations WILL be televised
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:01 PM
Apr 2019

There was not a national cable news infrastucture in 1974 to keep a spotlight on proceedings.

 

Buffalo Soldier

(78 posts)
2. Barbara Jordan
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 12:04 PM
Apr 2019

Her words ring true today, 100%...with your permission, I will spead her clip in all of my posts

watrwefitinfor

(1,399 posts)
3. You don't need my permission to post the clip.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:54 PM
Apr 2019

But very nice of you to ask.

I don't know how old you are, but her words rang true then, too. A most amazing woman - one of the giants I was referencing.

Wat

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