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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSeth Abramson: how Mueller says he was stymied:
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how Mueller says he was stymied:
(1) FIFTH AMENDMENT INVOCATIONS
(2) DOJ policies on attorneys and media
(3) Legal privilege protected by "taint team" review
(4) FALSE AND INCOMPLETE INFORMATION BY TRUMPISTS
(5) WITNESSES AND DOCUMENTS ABROAD
(6) DESTRUCTION OF EVIDENCE
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Bookmark the *hell* out of this statement by Mueller (pg. 10), as given all the different ways that Mueller was stymied, and his statement that he simply couldn't establish certain things *beyond a reasonable doubt*, this paragraph should be stapled on the doors of Congress:
So who stopped Mueller from getting a *definite* picture of what happened? By and large, noncompliance or lying by Trump's allies.
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_ _ _ _ ENTIRE EPIC THREAD BY SETH ABRAMSON_ _ _ _ _
https://threader.app/thread/1118631217212067841
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)llmart
(15,540 posts)Or what type of evidence was destroyed. Was it paper? Burner phones?
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,010 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)I've been doing this for over a year, and I find it helpful. The thread reader ap allows us to read all the connected tweets together in one document and Seth's very long tweets sort of require that. So rather than read all 127 (!) tweets online I print the entire document in a long PDF. This allows me to save it on my desktop and read it offline.
My PDF reader gives me options such as highlighting words and lines, bookmarking, and inserting comments where I need them. So if you have a Chrome browser you use the "print" option, but instead of printing on paper, print to a PDF document. Printing this document on paper would of course be wasteful and take forever, but it's possible to isolate certain pages and print them out, if need be. The trick is to create a PDF of it first, and once I'm done reading I can archive the PDF or delete it.
All I can say is thank God for Seth Abramson! His explanations have all been so great and he's generous sharing everything in a way that we non-lawyers can follow.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)Seth's now ripping journalists before they even do anything.
Super.
triron
(22,007 posts)jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)I'm just tired of the blanket condemnations at a time when what we have learned about the Mueller Report is that most of the information in it had already been accurately reported by reputable journalists at the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, all three major broadcast networks and some online publications.
It's tiresome to hear Seth and others just throw out "the media won't tell you this," when that's blatantly untrue, and when Seth tweetstormed on Thursday, he was telling you what "the media won't do," which is both wildly speculative and bullshit.
Your distinction of the "complicit media" is a good start.
triron
(22,007 posts)on Mueller, due to obstruction and other forms of coverup, to make charges against members of the Trump campaign. Seth is aptly pointing this out.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)just before Baghdad Bill got confirmed.