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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:23 AM Apr 2019

House Oversight Chair Elijah Cummings: History will 'smile upon' people who impeach Donald Trump

“This is a political act, and if you do vote to impeach him and then the Senate votes not to remove him, won’t that look like a victory for him?” Schieffer wondered.

“It may very well, but you know, sometimes, Bob, I got to tell you, there comes a point in life where we all have to make decisions based upon the fact that it is on our watch,” Cummings replied. “History, I think, even if we did not win possibly, if there were not impeachment, I think history would smile upon us for standing up for the Constitution.”

“You know, I hear a lot of people say they’re tired of hearing about the Mueller report,” he continued. “Well, we don’t have time to get tired, because the Russians aren’t getting tired. They are attacking our electoral system every single day, if not every hour.”

“We can not afford that. Our democracy cannot afford that,” Cummings added.


[link:https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/house-oversight-chair-elijah-cummings-history-will-smile-upon-people-impeach-donald-trump/|

Of course we all know that history smiles on the winner.... means we need to win, right?
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Vinca

(50,279 posts)
5. After the release of the Mueller report, I've changed my mind about impeachment.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 07:27 AM
Apr 2019

I was opposed because I thought it would hurt us in 2020. Now I think it will hurt us if we don't impeach. The impeachment will fail unless Republican senators finally decide to put country over party, but the hearings will expose more than what Mueller did. My biggest concern is people have their noses stuck in their phones and are not paying attention. I heard a report over the weekend that Kamala Harris went to Easter services in a church and no one knew who she was until the Pastor introduced her. And she's one of our top contenders!

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. Hearings won't do shit without the release of the grand jury information.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 07:47 AM
Apr 2019

The only way we get the release of grand jury information is through impeachment.

I'm sorry but I foresee Democrats sitting on their hands and hoping that the voting public will vote out Trump.

If Trump wins reelection and Democrats didn't impeach, we are all screwed royally. No one will admit to being a cowardly Democrat if that scenario happens.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
6. Clinton impeachment hurt democrats, the lost the house the senate and the presidency afterwards.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 07:27 AM
Apr 2019

I don't know where the hell this "impeachment hurts" narrative started and why the media continues it

bpj62

(999 posts)
8. Incorrect
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 07:56 AM
Apr 2019

The Republicans controlled the House and Senate in. 1998. The Republicans lost seats in 1998. The 2000 election was stolen by Jeb Bush and the Supreme Court. Clintons impeachment was in the resr view mirror in 2000.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
9. So democrats ... WON ... the house and senate after Clinton impeachment? No, they didn't they lost
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 07:58 AM
Apr 2019

... it.

I don't know what you're saying is incorrect.

thx in advance

bpj62

(999 posts)
13. Your snark is duly noted and ignored.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 09:02 AM
Apr 2019

In order to lose something you must be in possession of something in order to lose it. The Democrats did not control either chamber in 1998 or 2000. The was no resl talk about winning back either chamber. The Democrats were concentrating on getting Gore elected.

You wrote a poorly worded post and you dont like that I corrected your error. I have been a member of DU for a long time and the snark and vitriol that some of the members show each other has hotten worse over that time.

For the record I believe that the House should impeach Trump so that we have a public record of his crimes. The Senate will never convict but I believe the American people want an accounting.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
14. So isn't that worse !? That democrats, even with a historically popular president, didn't gain ...
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 09:39 AM
Apr 2019

... any control of the government post impeachment ... and ... republicans didn't face concrete negative consequences?


You're right, I'll change the wording going forward ... democrats didn't gain anything even with an historically popular president.


Regards

bpj62

(999 posts)
15. No it isnt
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 01:54 PM
Apr 2019

We lost because Gore and his campaign chairwoman Donna Brazille chose to run away from Clinton and not use him in the campaign because they felt that he was a liability due to the Lewinsky Affair. Not the impeachment but the affair itself. They did not message well and as a result they allowed Bush to close the gap. There are many here on DU who feel that Clinton is a liability and that he should just fade away.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
16. I'm not talking about the the house and the senate in 98 after Clinton's impeachment. So with
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 02:28 PM
Apr 2019

... a historically popular president the impeachment cost the republicans what?

Nothing, ... at least the kept what they had.

Regards

Dorn

(523 posts)
10. If Clinton was convicted and removed - Gore President No 9/11 No Endless War No DT
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 08:14 AM
Apr 2019

This is only history, the reality is *NOW* we have an evil man in the Whitehouse and he must be punished. If not then why punish anyone, people who speed on the freeway, people to kidnap, people who kill. Why?

Roy Rolling

(6,918 posts)
12. It Must Be Done
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 08:19 AM
Apr 2019

Impeachment must be executed as part of an overall campaign to remove the cancerous Republican corruption that has infected American politics.

We must do it, but like chemo, not kill the whole patient of America with its application.

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