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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:49 AM Aug 2012

Heh Chris Hayes Just Showed the RNC Delegate Demographics

93% White
2% African American
5% Hispanic

He cross referenced this with the fact that Romney is polling 0% with African Americans and then asked Michael Steele if that concerned him and he said "Oh my! Yes it does!"

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Heh Chris Hayes Just Showed the RNC Delegate Demographics (Original Post) berni_mccoy Aug 2012 OP
If African Americans are polling at 0%.... JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #1
I think I heard somewhere that Steele said he might vote for Obama. berni_mccoy Aug 2012 #2
Wasn't that someone saying he HAD voted for Obama in 2008? Coyotl Aug 2012 #4
Not much change BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #3
Affirmative Action! Quantess Aug 2012 #5
I'm sure the network cameras will focus on mucifer Aug 2012 #6
they will be properly placed no doubt. rurallib Aug 2012 #7
What was hilarious was when Ed schultz had Spike Lee on BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #8
one or two African Americans and Hispanics in the crowd. Flashmann Aug 2012 #11
Did they lose a bet or is it some type of fraternity hazing? FSogol Aug 2012 #15
Hah! brush Aug 2012 #16
I'm starting to feel a little sorry for Michael..Egads....n/t monmouth Aug 2012 #9
K&R nt avebury Aug 2012 #10
Always that way, but like in '04 they had all minorities dancing folk dances on the stage UTUSN Aug 2012 #12
Hee hee! brush Aug 2012 #17
They'll dig up somebody. longship Sep 2012 #28
My only question is what are the remaining 7% thinking??? gainesvillenole Aug 2012 #13
Since they have Steele and Thomas and Rice... ananda Aug 2012 #14
I'm wondering who in the heck are those 2% blacks and 5% hispanics? Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #18
I have fallen into a pattern when responding to discussions about Demographics Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #19
I wonder how much of this is due to our definitions of race ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2012 #22
I believe it is based on how you self identify. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #23
saw the show too... goclark Aug 2012 #20
I wonder what percentage of the 5% Hispanic, are Florida Cubans? CanonRay Aug 2012 #21
math issues deeno Aug 2012 #24
say what??!! Kali Sep 2012 #25
let me guess, the fairness of the standards used for the rnc, correct? Raster Sep 2012 #26
Are you also concerned about DURHAM D Sep 2012 #27

JohnnyRingo

(18,656 posts)
1. If African Americans are polling at 0%....
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:53 AM
Aug 2012

Michael Steele has some explaining to do.

I actually suspected as much. After all, he's a cheerleader, not a dark hued GOP robot.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Wasn't that someone saying he HAD voted for Obama in 2008?
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:59 AM
Aug 2012

Like so many other Republicans

Small wonder they are suppressing the vote along racial lines!!

BumRushDaShow

(129,597 posts)
3. Not much change
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:57 AM
Aug 2012

From Daily Kos back in 2008 - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/09/04/586984/-GOP-Delegate-Demographics-Closer-to-Alaska-than-US

RNC Demographics, of 2,380
Black Delegates: 1.5% (36 people)
Hispanic Delegates: 5%
Male Delegates: 68%
Female Delegates: 32%

Sources: Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies; CBS/NY Times Poll


This was vs the 2008 Democratic delegation demo -

Per the DNC, of the 4,400 delegates:
Minority delegates: 44%
Black delegates: 24%
Hispanic delegates: 12%
*Women slightly outnumber men for first time in convention history


Am wondering if they rounded up the real figure for blacks...

mucifer

(23,572 posts)
6. I'm sure the network cameras will focus on
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:02 AM
Aug 2012

the one or two African Americans and Hispanics in the crowd.

BumRushDaShow

(129,597 posts)
8. What was hilarious was when Ed schultz had Spike Lee on
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:05 AM
Aug 2012

the Friday broadcast and right at the end of the interview, Spike chuckled about the strategically placed blacks standing in the background directly behind Rmoney so they appeared on camera when he announced Lyin' Ryan.

These people act like no one notices that they do this time after time after time.

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
11. one or two African Americans and Hispanics in the crowd.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:20 AM
Aug 2012

And make them appear to be hundreds,somehow.....

FSogol

(45,530 posts)
15. Did they lose a bet or is it some type of fraternity hazing?
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:46 AM
Aug 2012

Like the black sperm in Woody Allen in "Everything You Wanted to Know About Sex" said, "What am I doing here?"

brush

(53,908 posts)
16. Hah!
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:49 AM
Aug 2012

You noticed that too? They always have a couple of minorities positioned carefully on the podium so that they are in the camera shot behind the speaker. Just window dressing, and probably paid to be there.

UTUSN

(70,748 posts)
12. Always that way, but like in '04 they had all minorities dancing folk dances on the stage
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:31 AM
Aug 2012

and NONE of their true Wingnut a-holes leaders in sight.

brush

(53,908 posts)
17. Hee hee!
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:53 AM
Aug 2012

Wonder who they'll have this year. Any performer other than Ted Nugent or Hank Williams Jr willing to do this must be getting paid A LOt because it sure will damage their careers. It doesn't matter for the two I just mentioned because they've already damaged their own careers.

longship

(40,416 posts)
28. They'll dig up somebody.
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 02:52 AM
Sep 2012

I am thinking Lawrence Welk. Well, they'd really have to dig him up. But maybe the Lennon Sisters. Naw!

I know!! Pat Boone!!!

* White. check
* Sings blues, sortta. check
(there's that wink to the minorities)
* Christian! check
* Old. check
(gotta prop up the senior vote, the only demographic other than white male they have)

He's perfect. But I am still holding out for Lawrence Welk simply because it would be so Wunnerfull.

Somebody turn off the bubble machine!

ananda

(28,879 posts)
14. Since they have Steele and Thomas and Rice...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:44 AM
Aug 2012

... perhaps the Reeps actually have .0000001& of the vote.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
19. I have fallen into a pattern when responding to discussions about Demographics
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:55 AM
Aug 2012

so I apologize if anyone reading this has already seen it.


IMO the Republican party is screwed. There will be a ~6% shift in the electorate from 2008 to 2020. If we assume the (D)s get 2/3s of that vote and the (R)s get 1/3 of that vote then we net a 2% gain. In a country where the split is something like 47 - 47 with 6% undecided, this is huge. We are looking at the possibility of a country where the electorate is split 49 - 45 with 6% undecided in just 8 short years.



http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/aia2010031101/

^snip^







The increase in the nonwhite share of the electorate over the next decade will have major consequences for electoral competition. If the Democratic Party is able to maintain anything close to the overwhelming advantage among nonwhite voters that it enjoyed in 2008, Republican candidates will need to win a considerably larger share of the white vote than their party’s candidates did in 2008 or even 2004 in order to remain competitive in national elections. Under these circumstances, even a 60 percent share of the white vote would not be enough to give a Republican candidate a majority of the popular vote and the last Republican presidential candidate to win more than 60 percent of the white vote was Ronald Reagan in 1984.

An alternative path to victory for Republicans in future national elections would involve seeking to expand their Party’s support among nonwhite voters. By winning a larger share of the nonwhite vote, a Republican candidate could be elected with considerably less than 60 percent of the white vote. But this would require the GOP to move away from its conservative base and closer to the ideological center because nonwhite voters tend to be strong supporters of increased spending on social programs and activist government.

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Along the same lines, 65 percent of nonwhite voters, including 64 percent of African-American voters and 73 percent of Hispanic voters, supported the creation of a single-payer health care system in the United States compared with only 15 percent of Republican primary voters. And given a choice between more government services with higher taxes and fewer government services with lower taxes, 67 percent of nonwhite voters, including 67 percent of African-American voters and 68 percent of Hispanic voters, chose more government services with higher taxes compared with only 25 percent of GOP primary voters.

eppur_se_muova

(36,299 posts)
22. I wonder how much of this is due to our definitions of race ...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:46 AM
Aug 2012

If one of your four grandparents is black, you're regarded as black. If one of your eight great-grandparents was black, you might, if you're lucky enough to be particularly fair-skinned, pass as white; otherwise, you are treated as black in this society. Other minorities are judged similarly, if perhaps not as stringently. Whatever the "official" definitions, by the definitions we practice, any form of interracial mixing leads to the conversion of future generations of "white" people to "nonwhite". This really wouldn't matter to anyone if it weren't for race-based politics -- but a party which aligns itself so thoroughly against nonwhites, as the modern Repugs have done, has adopted a losing strategy. Human nature being what it is, the formation of family ties between people who were supposed to remain enemies will sap whatever strength "ethnic purity" factions once had. I'm sure someone who is a better student of history than myself can cite numerous examples of societies where one ethnic group tried to maintain the upper hand, but lost out over the generations as the rulers inevitably mingled with the ruled.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
23. I believe it is based on how you self identify.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:04 AM
Aug 2012

Pollsters would ask a person their race and the answer given would be in the data.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
20. saw the show too...
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:05 AM
Aug 2012

Now I think I understand why Michael lost? .......His job.
According to him he tried to encourage them to involve more minoritiess.
They did.....Mr.999
That is the best they "wanted " to do.

It is a must see segment.

 

deeno

(3 posts)
24. math issues
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 05:47 PM
Aug 2012

the rnc had 2.5% black delegates. the black population in this country is 12.5%, so yes indeed blacks were under-represented. the dnc will have 24% black delegates.

questions- are blacks over-represented at the dnc? are whites under-represented at the dnc? i am simply wondering about fairness of the standards used in these comparisons.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
26. let me guess, the fairness of the standards used for the rnc, correct?
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 12:41 AM
Sep 2012

Blacks over-represented? Whites under-represented?

You are treading a very thin line here, bordering on outright racism, but you do it oh-so cleverly.

We in the Democratic Party welcome our diversity. We welcome men and women of all colors and all creeds. We welcome Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay and Transgendered persons, and yes, even the plain ol' heterosexual variety.

We welcome the young and the old, and value the life experiences of all. For it is our belief that diversity and our differences make us stronger. Our diversity helps us understand and value each other.

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
27. Are you also concerned about
Sat Sep 1, 2012, 02:26 AM
Sep 2012

Hispanic, Asian, and Native American representation? Or just white people?

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