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... that Mueller and company also meant for their report to be turned over to Congress and
that Mueller's team wrote summaries of each chapter of the report that were to be given to
the public too. Barr is working to stop both Congress and the American people from seeing
what is really in the report.
One of the most highly redacted sections of the report had to do with Wikileaks. The Russians
along with the Trump campaign both used Wikileaks to sew lies, divisions, and spread information that
was stolen from Hillary and the DNC. Barr is a fixer for Trump and Company's work in the largest
crime in America's history.
20 Most Damaging Items From Mueller's Report
https://hillreporter.com/20-most-damaging-items-from-muellers-report-31869
1. The Trump campaign expected it would benefit from Russian hacking efforts.
4. Trump made a heretofore unknown attempt to get his former Attorney General to shut down the investigation.
8. Security contractor and former Blackwater CEO Erik Prince, the brother of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, financed efforts to obtain Hillary Clintons deleted emails.
17. Sections about the Trump campaigns communications with Wikileaks are heavily redacted.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)At a MINIMUM there was going to be more indictments that were squashed.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)You sound very confident.
I hope you are correct.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,112 posts)So I have to assume there are one or two patriots in the GOP, one or two.
edhopper
(33,587 posts)Or sday...Not at liberty to discuss...
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)Will he put the country ahead of his historically republican position? Will he take the heat?
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)The timing with Barr being put in charge, and leaving a grand jury hanging, leads me to believe that Barr probably put an early end to this. Everything seemed to wrap up very abruptly. Or Mueller saw the writing on the wall and decided to wrap things up best he could while he still had his status as special counsel.
triron
(22,007 posts)No one, including Mueller, wanted to go there.
There are things the powers that be can't let the public know.
Botany
(70,516 posts)... damning information from getting out. Manafort, Trump's campaign manager sent
polling data (advanced data analytics) to Russia in order for them to target certain swing
states so the election could be rigged for Trump.
triron
(22,007 posts)UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)n/t
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)A-OK...but if I walk down the street with a joint in my hand....THE HORROR!
Blanks
(4,835 posts)Mueller references it in the report.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)used advanced crypto in their notes and written communications , etc. He so stated in the report.
I also believe DOJ forbid Mueller to use certain avenues in his search for the truth. Mueller says as much in his report and also that there's more evidence out there.
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)How a legal dispute between Mueller and Barr drove the end of the special counsels probe https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-a-legal-dispute-between-mueller-and-barr-drove-the-end-of-the-trump-probe/2019/04/19/1781807e-623e-11e9-9ff2-abc984dc9eec_story.html
It is inconceivable to me that the department could accept Muellers interpretation, Barr wrote. It is untenable as a matter of law and cannot provide a legitimate basis for interrogating the president.
At the time, Muellers team was pressing for an interview with the president, and Barrs memo argued forcefully that no interview was justified because of what he viewed as Muellers erroneous, overly broad view of the obstruction law.
In what is arguably the most technical and dense section of the report, Muellers team pushes back hard against such arguments, saying the law in question is broad and captures corrupt conduct, other than document destruction, that has the natural tendency to obstruct contemplated as well as pending proceedings.
So looks like Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction question so that he would not be overruled by Barr. But Barr ended up overruling him anyway by concluding on his own there was no obstruction. https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2305408
triron
(22,007 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)were above board. This, is an insidious and treacherous crew and should be treated as such by congress!
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)Chump never thought his statement "I'm fucked" would ever be repeated outside the Oval Office.
Also when Chump said it, Mueller had only just been hired. James Comey was fired May 10th 2017, and on May 17th Jeff Sessions told Chump he was recusing himself. In the same meeting Sessions told Chump he had hired Mueller as the special investigator, and that's when Chump said "I'm fucked. It's the end of my presidency."
Sounds like an admission of guilt, wouldn't you say?
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Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)We're concentrating our attention on Trump, the presidency, and the ineptitude of a DOJ ruling that hamstrung our special counsel. What about the dozens of other Trumpies that are not similarly protected? Will the hammer fall on them in due time? Or will they, too, skirt justice by stacking the playing field with cheaters, liars and thieves?
And what needs to happen to override the DOJ ruling?
What would have happened if Trump, indeed, shot someone dead in plain sight, on 5th Avenue? Would he still be protected by this inane internal ruling? Could the Senate still determine there wasn't enough there to impeach? What kind of country are we, anyway?
SunSeeker
(51,571 posts)watrwefitinfor
(1,399 posts)What's to stop Barr from firing all the federal attorneys in charge of those cases Mueller "farmed out"?
Does anyone else remember when Gonzales (Bush's AG) fired David Iglesias and a number other US attorneys all at the same time. Most if not all were handling (or refusing to open) cases involving democrats. (Edit to add most of the cases involved voter "fraud" issues.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy
Caused quite a legal stir and an investigation but nothing much was ever done about it. I can remember hearings where Gonzales had to testify. It was all so disgusting. And we - progressives - did despair at the time.
This came shortly after the conviction of Gov. Siegelman. Here is a 2018 article by Iglesias with discussion that seems relevant now in some ways.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-fired-doj-department-justice-robert-mueller-trump-1112-story.html
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yaesu
(8,020 posts)I believe Mueller was forced into ending the investigation premature.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)Or perhaps Barr dissuaded Mueller in more subtle ways we may never know about?
jmowreader
(50,559 posts)Even redacted it hangs Trump out to dry. The unredacted one must really be bad.
thegoose
(3,115 posts)Reported on MSNBC today.
spanone
(135,844 posts)Texin
(2,596 posts)I think he removed Mueller and both Barr and Rosenstein decided to take this over and massage the report to obfuscate the most damning contents.
After reading much of this, one cannot take away anything less than the fact that the tRump "presidency" is a sham, a fraud and illegitimate, because he not only lost the popular vote, Putin's thugs rigged the electoral count in just a handful of key states, and that simple tinkering with the computer code to tabulate the results was enough to (barely) put him into office. [Yes, I know that the report doesn't speak to actual vote-rigging, but the Russians certainly had that capability.]
Botany
(70,516 posts)... the operations of both the voting machines and the central tabulators. Putin was not
there "just to have a look around."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-13/russian-breach-of-39-states-threatens-future-u-s-elections
Link to tweet
Alexander Torshin sponsor of one Maria Butina looking @ one of our voting machines
in 2012.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Trump asked for assistance from Russia.
He got assistance from Russia.
He rewarded Russia by dropping sanctions.
Quid pro quo.