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I believe we will find out MUCH more about the ways in which team 45 worked with Russia.
Remember, Flynn was chastised by the judge and has not been sentenced yet. Nor Gates. And much about which we know nothing.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/19/us/politics/redacted-mueller-report.html
Sorry, but I believe there's a paywall.
anarch
(6,535 posts)I suspect there was some degree of actual manipulation of the votes, beyond just messing with the voter rolls and strategically deleting registrations and so on to reduce the number of Dem votes--as bad as that is, I suspect there was even worse than that done in some of the key states (the ones where it was basically statistically impossible for Bonespurs to win, and he eked out the same percentage of just enough votes to avoid a recount in all of those states) and it's known to at least some extent, but it's been and will continue to be suppressed because the ptb believe it's too much for the public to handle. E.g., the fucker did not win the election in any kind of way, it was stolen, and he is completely illegitimate.
I don't think the full details known by our intelligence agencies will ever be released publically. For "national security" reasons and so forth.
deek
(3,414 posts)(sigh)
Shanti Mama
(1,288 posts)And I agree that some of the ptb think the public can't handle it. There are, however, a lot of people on some kind of inside who want us to know. I'll stay optimistic, without too much hope, if that makes sense.
The thing is, he/his campaign DID conspire. I think that's what's in there. Not just that the Russians interfered, but that they did it WITH the campaign, with his knowledge. I wish some coverage would talk about this, how much is still unknown. I'm tired of hearing that he did not collude. We DON'T KNOW that.
triron
(22,007 posts)This is where Mueller whitewashed. Trump et al did commit treason.
former9thward
(32,023 posts)Why did you leave that out?
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,246 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)former9thward
(32,023 posts)See post #9. Flynn was working with Turkey not Russia. The judge apologized when he realized the mistake.
former9thward
(32,023 posts)The judge apologized because he realized he made an error in the facts. Flynn's involvement was with Turkey -- not Russia -- and it occurred before he had started his position with the U.S. government. Moreover Turkey is a U.S. ally and fellow member of NATO.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)If that report ever gets leaked (in full) then I'm OK with the Mueller report being redacted.
We need to realize that most of the redactions on the Mueller report are referring to grand jury testimony, and some of it refers to Roger Stone's and Julian Assange's cases. If the info gets out before litigation either or both of those guys might get to walk. I won't be a party to that! I'm willing to wait on the Mueller report until after those guys get their much-deserved convictions and prison sentences.