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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy did we believe the praises heaped on Mueller?
I fell for it.
Never again.
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)The level of brainwashing is intense.
I've had to slap myself out of it.
dem4decades
(11,297 posts)I don't listen a bit anymore. They sold me on all this evidence and then crickets.
leftieNanner
(15,127 posts)An honored Marine, a seemingly ethical public servant. But now I'm not sure we looked hard enough. Is it possible that his Marine training keeps him from bucking his superiors?
We had to cling to something in order to still get up every morning. I haven't given up on this country yet.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)Mueller is just like Barr.
I think we have trolls on here pushing the Mueller bs. I also think that some really believed that Mueller was "a stand up guy".
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Simple as that.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)I did expect:
In person interviews with Jr, Jared, and Dump.
Looking at his tax returns for clues.
Deutsche Bank records examined.
To name 3.
And why all the plea deals and no big fish?
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)The big conspiracy is that they all colluded to protect the GOP from damage. Mueller, Barr, Rosenstein etc. have been doing their jobs as they see it; Protect the GOP at all costs.
New Hampshire Man
(36 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)Junior, Jared, and Dump never had a sit down interview by Mueller.
Plea deals with no big fish.
Tax records not examined.
Deutsche Bank records not examined (according to Adam Schiff).
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... congress before in his "summaries" and there's no reason to think he's telling the truth now.
jrthin
(4,836 posts)you're really not conducting an investigation that matters. And if you're taking orders as to how to conduct an investigation, an honorable person would quit.
brush
(53,794 posts)No. Barr stopped him from finishing and shut it down.
And seriously, you don't know what's in the report. If it really exonerated trump it would've been posted on the intermet immediately and released to all the newspapers and TV and radio.
Barr is not hiding it and redacting it for his health. He's trump's new Roy Cohn/Michael Cohen. He's doing for trump what he did for HW Bush and Iran-Contra. He's there to make it go away.
rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)brush
(53,794 posts)and trump's long-time accountant?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Learn from the mistake.
It's among what separates us from the lower orders of primates.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... with you on Mueller.
I've said Mueller might be an asshole that doesn't mean democrats shouldn't enforce the law.
dogman
(6,073 posts)I remembered the praises of Fitzgerald. Everyone was eager for Fitzmas. He did take out a Democratic governor though.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Barr and Rosenstein will do their best in covering it up. But alas, it will come out.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Ponietz
(2,987 posts)BigDemVoter
(4,152 posts)Hekate
(90,721 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)Boomerproud
(7,957 posts)Hekate
(90,721 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)when he came aboard, he told Mueller to have the report on his desk in 30 days or however long it was between his confirmation and the report being sent to DoJ. Just like the Bush pardons of IranContra figures short-circuited that investigation.
Left to his own devices, we would have gotten more people charged and Mueller would have held out longer to see if he could get Roger Stone to flip on Trump, or anybody else that would have been indicted - Erik Prince, Randy Credico, Jerome Corsi, etc
Barr is also going to try to prevent Mueller and his lieutenants from testifying to Congress, especially in public.
bluestarone
(16,980 posts)The House needs to hire Mueller to FINISH his investigation FULLY!!
CharleyDog
(757 posts)questions. The film, Press for Truth (Amazon Prime) is about the families of loved ones killed in the towers asking questions and getting lies from the Bush administration. They kept pressing for answers, such as why are they saying no warning of an attack of this kind, when researching this, they found there actually were many warnings about the 9/11 attack, from intelligence services here in the USA and intelligence in UK, France, etc. And there's Mueller in a quick clip saying, "he was not aware of any warning that we might be attacked in this way." He was Director of the FBfuckingI.
So, carrying water for lying Republicans as head of the FBI.
He also was part of the DOJ OVERSEEING the prosecution of Manuel Noriega that Racheal Maddow emphasized the other night about the proven cover up executed by Bill Barr on that front.
(I'm not a CT person. Information is from Wikipedia and the film, which is evidence-based, and sympathetic to the families of 9/11 victims in the towers.)
I wanted to trust Mueller, but I don't. Yet, perhaps the evidence is so overwhelming even they can't make it go away.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)Bush ignored them and went on vacation cleaning Brush.
MH1
(17,600 posts)I kept hearing "Fitzmas" in my brain, over and over again, for some reason. From the beginning of this thing.
That said, I do think that Mueller's outward behavior has been more professional than some of the obvious puppets, and maybe when all the facts are known we will see that he did his job reasonably well and with reasonable professionalism, under the circumstances. He was put in a difficult place and may have done what he felt he could do, while not attempting heroic measures (which might have failed in any case).
Alternatively, maybe he is just as much a part of the criminal con game as the others, just did a better job of not looking like it.
yardwork
(61,666 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Anon-C
(3,430 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Mueller time and other such nonsense.
The Mouth
(3,153 posts)McCain on here; anyone who had a good word for him, just because he opposed Trump, is pretty low in my book. A fucking bastard who never met a war he didn't want to send kids into, but let him diss dumpbsterfuck and DU is singing his praises as a great fucking hero.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)would know that they are no friend to the left. There is a reason J. Edgar Hoover's name is still on FBI Headquarters
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,359 posts)Bettie
(16,111 posts)there was one republican, somewhere who would be decent.
Hope that there was someone who didn't want our republic to fail under the weight of lawlessness.
Yeah, so false hope, most likely.