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Botany

(70,510 posts)
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 10:49 AM Apr 2019

Is this in the Mueller Report?/DHS, FBI say election systems in all 50 states were targeted in 2016

And is this why "they" are fighting its release so hard?

DHS, FBI say election systems in all 50 states were targeted in 2016.

A joint intelligence bulletin (JIB) has been issued by the Department of Homeland Security and Federal Bureau of Investigation to state and local authorities regarding Russian hacking activities during the 2016 presidential election. While the bulletin contains no new technical information, it is the first official report to confirm that the Russian reconnaissance and hacking efforts in advance of the election went well beyond the 21 states confirmed in previous reports.

(Any chance that the Mueller Report covers this?)

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/04/dhs-fbi-say-election-systems-in-50-states-were-targeted-in-2016/

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Please remember that exit polls had Hillary winning many of the states that went to Trump and
put him into the White House. "They" are trying to cover up the one of the biggest crimes in
America's history and that being that Russia rigged our elections and that they had inside help
too. Brad Parscale, Steve Bannon, the Mercers, Manafort, McConnell, Facebook, Fox News, and
Kris Kobach I am looking at you.

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triron

(22,006 posts)
3. Thanks for posting it again. Absolutely agree.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:09 AM
Apr 2019

The analysis I posted from Ron Baiman (Ph.D) in that previous thread
showed a deviation toward Trump
that had about a 1 in 750,000 chance in happening (in other words virtually impossible
without election rigging).

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
4. On the other thread, the OP said vote totals were altered,
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:12 AM
Apr 2019

But I didn’t see that anywhere in the story.

triron

(22,006 posts)
5. The analysis I cite above shows that beyond a reasonable doubt.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:17 AM
Apr 2019

How often in our lifetimes does a 1 in 750,000 event take place?

Just mathematics and logic here plus numerous circumstantial bits of evidence.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. That's not the same thing as saying vote totals were hacked.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:20 AM
Apr 2019

There are a number of ways that someone could have interfered in the election without actually hacking vote totals.

triron

(22,006 posts)
12. See my post #10. Guess I basically agree with what you say.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:30 AM
Apr 2019

I still thing it's very plausible that somehow vote tallies themselves were messed with.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
6. yeah, probably...I thought it was basically acknowledged that Russia did everything they could
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:17 AM
Apr 2019

to steal the election...I got the impression that the Republicans were past that, with their general consensus being "yeah? So what?," and that their stance was more "you can't prove Individual 1 personally committed a crime," with the tacit acknowledgment that this is largely on account of the effective obstruction of the investigation, and the evidence of that 2nd thing was then presented for Congress to evaluate. Except I guess the standard procedure now is for the Executive Branch to just investigate itself and then declare itself to be all above board, and everything's cool, so nobody worry about it.

I mean really, I thought it was a given that the Russians hacked everywhere they could, and we "don't have evidence" of any vote flipping because that's probably not really exactly how they did it, etc. But the fucking Republicans, who control everything really, don't give a shit. Seriously, ask them. They sell t-shirts that basically brag about it--"better Russian then democrat" or what-the-fuck-ever. Fucking bunch of traitors.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
13. exactly the kind of thing I mean; but noboy wants to face up to it
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 01:22 PM
Apr 2019

It's always "oh don't be ridiculous, that's not what the article really said, there's no evidence of that (not that anyone has really looked all that hard), and besides that's just too much to handle so nope nope nope nope nope, not even gonna think about it."

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
11. I agree. I'm suggesting that it only leaves the FBI in that role...
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:30 AM
Apr 2019

And of course Dear Leader has demonized the FBI for his entire residency.

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