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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo, Donwald J. Trump Is Flying to Minnesota Tomorrow...
I'm not sure exactly why he's coming here, but I expect him to further attack one of our House representatives, Ilhan Omar, in the remarks he makes in an outer suburb of the Twin Cities. He will also, no doubt, refer to the Twin Cities, Minneapolis and St. Paul, as sanctuary cities and threaten to send border crossers here.
OK, Donwald - we can handle migrants. We have a long, long history of welcoming migrants into our communities. Somalis, Liberians, Vietnamese, Hmong, Russians, Swedes, Mexicans, Central Americans, Norwegians...heck almost any group you can mention. We're not bothered. In fact, voters in the city of Minneapolis elected Ilhan Omar to represent them in the House of Representatives. We respect our immigrant folks here.
So, good luck with your remarks. We're not like you here, and we don't like you here. Please leave immediately. Thanks.
VOTE HIM OUT!
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)We're ready to help our new immigrants get their driver's licences, too. We just passed a law making them available, regardless of immigration status.
We might not be able to help you, though, if you want to deport them later. Once they're here, they'll be Twin Cities residents, and we don't follow our citizens around to keep track of them.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)Minnesotans can be proud of their heritage and the migrants that came here. Minnesota would not be the great state it is without all who came here to make Minnesota their home. All are welcome!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)for some inexplicable reason..
UNTIL.... I first heard Al Franken say, "Minnesotans."
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)Ligyron
(7,633 posts)I wonder if there will be any "counter" rallies or protests occurring.
Which will be by and large ignored by the MSM.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)know where or when he'll appear. It looks like he'll be going to Nuss Truck and Supply in Burnsville, a southern metro city, but that's not confirmed. There may not be time to set up protests, I'm afraid. I just don't know, at this point.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)in that way.
BBG
(2,539 posts)And an embarrassment to us all.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Dickster
(103 posts)Twittler, even if its last minute... Can we semi organize something and mobilize at the last minute?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Is not Nuss one of the Minny Rethug"s Connected? Much like Stanley Hubbard.
Couple miles from the Airport as the Helicopter Fly's. The Boy's in the Shop will get clean Uni's out off the deal.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I do know that I won't be, though.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Scott Counties Finest as well as the Burnsville so called finest to protect from protesters. Wet Kiss Time for the Scott County Tea Baggers and Humpers.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)total grip on all State Equipment buy's. Thought that was finally fixed with Dayton.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)It's all fairly industrial around there. I have relatives who have a business about 2 blocks from Nuss - but at least one of them will probably be on the roadside waving a sign of support (or her Bible, hoping he'll sign it - she's that nuts. Fortunately, she married into the family.)
There is no mass transit that could get people to the area and no good places to park if people arrive by car. I can only think of 2 ways in & out of the area and I imagine they'll be blocked. On the other hand my sister-in-law lives just over a mile away and we did talk about walking over there to see a protest depending on the time.
I wonder what route he'll take to get there. There is some messy contruction and lane shifts on 35W between 106th St, almost to Cliff Road (and Cliff would be the logical exit to take). So I wonder if they'll got 35E or Hwy 77 to Hwy 13 and over from there.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)My Territory was South of 13.
Sorry I can't be there. Looking like Cedar to Cliff and most likely Cliff west to the Dealership. Do think he could find a safer place to hide?
Easy for the Security Detail to keep everyone away. Only two ways in and out if memory works.
Well he could maybe play on one of the diggers or dump trucks if he wants to do a photo shoot.
If memory serves,both Burnsville PD and Dakota County Sherriff's Deputies are all Teamster 120 members.
Again my guess is Cliff Road,used to be a pretty easy drive till 35.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)but from Cedar it's a long way on surface streets with lots of intersections and businesses along the route.
Even with the construction they might to 35W to Cliff, they can still keep him moving faster and no cross streets. Or 35W, to 13, to 5 - that also keeps him moving faster.
Here's link to a map of the area. (You'll need to zoom in to get a good look at the road options)
https://www.google.com/maps/dir//Nuss+Truck+%26+Equipment,+12540+Dupont+Ave+S,+Burnsville,+MN+55337/@44.7765535,-93.3071424,15z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x87f63ae29e7757f5:0x7c2cc21c560e0e4a!2m2!1d-93.298387!2d44.776589
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)about now. As well as the Blockers. The Barricade People used to be in that complex near 35 and 13,but what do I know,it has been 16 years since last there.
Since Dingle Balls will most likely land at the Navel Air portion of the Airport,they have a least a half dozen Choppers available as well as Donnies own Chopper. Ins't there a big Green Space near Cliff and 35 ? Part of the Minnesota River Wildlife area. There is a service Road that runs out the South End of the Airport then down towards Bunsville. Old Cedar Ave or something. Unless it is under water.
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)terrain.
I did think that, if the river was going to flood, tomorrow would be a good time. I went out over Cedar on Friday but, while the river is high I haven't heard of any road closures.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Hubbard's TV Station will be all over like stink on a Manure pile.
My guess is,our friends will be out in force all over that Industrial Park area with full compliment of protest Signs. The Niece is on here way as we speak,she just called and said she was near Glencoe and planned on being in place before Sun up.
Have fun standing tall and defending our DFL principles.
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)with 100% chance of spewing bullshit
Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)He wants to divide and conquer by highlighting the deplorables within Minnesota. Holding a rally there puts the stink on Minnesota as Trump country, in PR world. But there are "PR world" counterattacks, too.
Minnesotans should show up with signs. Especially INSIDE the rally. Water-down the number of deplorables inside. And outside, flood the area with sign-carrying counter-protesters. DO IT!!!
This is a TV, PR battle, take away Trumps weapon!
He thinks he's "Mr. Branding", but only because nobody challenges the "Trump brand" in politics like it is done in business. In the world of commerce, the Trump brand is now dead from association with Trump and his family of grifters named "Trump".
Destroy the rally brand, Minnesota!! You can do it for all of us. Make the rallies a show of chaos, rebrand them as amateur, medicine man carnival rants and a too-long show hosted by a D-list, washed up TV actor.
Rebrand the audiences as loons listening to a nutjob. Do it by putting sane people right next to imported Trump "extras", as they are called in the entertainment biz. Trump is trying to smear Minnesota by portraying them as Trump toadies, don't let him come there and do it.
cp
(6,634 posts)Under your plaid shirt, of course
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)a counter protest. They haven't even announced when he'll arrive at MSP airport, as far as I know. I'm trying to find out. At this time, there are no NOTAMs for tomorrow at KMSP.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)lol.
Did MN vote for Trump? I don't remember.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)than it should have. We had a lot of Democrats who didn't vote or voted for Jill Stein. I have three friends who did the latter, for which they are seriously embarrassed now.
I don't believe Al Franken will show up to see Trump. Really.
progree
(10,908 posts)Jill Swine got 1.26%, Gary Johnson got 3.84%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Minnesota
Especially distressing is the red-blue precinct map for the 2016 presidential election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Minnesota#/media/File:MNPrecinctsPres16.svg
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Just look at NYS, where I live..
https://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/new-york/
The boonies are pure red...
rgbecker
(4,831 posts)Democrats need to put up a candidate that can get people to the polls. Trump is doing his best to make sure 2020 will be a Democratic comeback, but we shouldn't blow it with a so-so candidate that puts everyone to sleep.
progree
(10,908 posts)ones that voted for Swine and Johnson. And probably much more persuadable overall. I keep forgetting.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Love beats hate!
Joe Nation
(963 posts)Once you get outside of the metro area and into the rural parts of Minnesota, there is no shortage of Trumpy bigots and racists. Most of my family still lives in Minnesota and we don't talk politics because some of them are rabid supporters of this idiot-in-chief. Let us not forget the support Michele Bachmann received for many years from the collar counties in Minnesota. My opinion has always been that no matter where you live in this country, the further you get from the centers of civilization, the less civil the population becomes. Minnesota is no different, although we like to pretend that we are some island of liberalism border-to-border.
progree
(10,908 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)& the intelligence scale drops like a rock.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,492 posts)in sucking our countryside folks to the right. The plutocrats knew exactly how to do this and funded it, just like Murdoch's Faux News.
I fear we will struggle to regain our majority until those two entities are somehow reigned in. Churches and our public broadcast space should not be swaying the nation's politics.
We need to occupy both!.......
Smackdown2019
(1,188 posts)So where is the funding going to come from, to Bus these people want to sanctuary cities? Remember, his wall is getting funded by other departments and with limited funding as is, where is this needless expense going to come from?
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)It's all pretend money, see...
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)So few seem to be saying anything.
Where is Schumer, for example- My Senator--- fighting back about the threats against Ilhan Omar ???
Of course, he is of the "Jewish persuasion." So there might be something there.
Norbert
(6,040 posts)to begin life anew than to have this petulant racist visit my fair city for a second.
KPN
(15,646 posts)This family is nuts!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Maybe your greatest post ever... and so freakin' obvious..
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,731 posts)The FAA has issued a TFR for tomorrow for his infestation of our fair cities. https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_9_1544.html It appears that he'll be arriving around 1645 UTC (11:45 am local time) and leaving around 2015 UTC (5:15 pm local time).
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)around then. It's hard to decide which channel to monitor, though. I don't have a scanner - just a USB dongle where I have to set a frequency and stick with it.
I'll hunt around shortly before arrival time and see if I can ID the best one to monitor.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,731 posts)Chances are they will land on either 30R or 12L because those are closer to the reserve base on the north side where they usually park AF1. Try this web site to monitor approach control and tower frequencies. https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=kmsp
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Please, though, by all means flip him off as he flies by. I'm not in line with that approach pattern, so I won't see AF1.
There will be USAF fighters in the sky tomorrow, too. I listened to them the last time AF1 flew in here. I did not save the frequency, though, dammit.
Flight rules tighten way down in those circumstances. Regular air traffic will have to mind its Ps and Qs, for sure.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)We'll see what we can hear.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,482 posts)Let me see, where is that FAA info...?
Per brooklynite:
Air Traffic Control Warning...
Here we go:
https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_9_1544.html
dflprincess
(28,079 posts)I was working at a company in Eagan & was outside with another smoker (I have since quit) who commented that it was weird we weren't seeing the number of planes going over that we were used to. Then we remembered Bush was in town and about that time we heard a roar and AF1 flew over. We both saluted - with both hands. And the plane was still low enough that it may not have been hard for somoene looking out of the plane to guess what we were doing.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,731 posts)I had to be a bit subtle, though, because I had some right-wing ex-military co-workers. W wouldn't have seen it anyhow but it made me feel better. I wish there was a way to organize a mass mooning of Trump.
Kath2
(3,074 posts)with a loud and well-attended protest. Shame the bigots.
Vinca
(50,276 posts)to actually speak to him, just to ask him one thing - What the hell is wrong with you? Then I had second thoughts. Who in their right mind could sit through that BS?
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,482 posts)Norbert
(6,040 posts)Are you sure the wuss can take this cold weather.
Blue Owl
(50,398 posts)n/t
Doreen
(11,686 posts)to Minnesota. My heart goes to you. Hang in there we are rooting for you.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)from Minneapolis? He does the "stand on every corner" protests, and might be able to rustle up a protest on short notice.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I'll see if I can find more info.
Get info at: https://www.facebook.com/events/346284836058723/