I hope Israel's future is brighter than I foresee

[Cary]

What a hot mess:

https://www.jta.org/2019/04/11/opinion/netanyahus-victory-means-the-far-right-in-israel-is-about-to-get-a-lot-more-powerful

[guillaumeb]

1. Recommended.

From the article:

A fifth term for Netanyahu carries serious consequences for those interested in peace with Israel’s neighbors and the nation’s long-term security. West Bank annexation, which would undermine Israel’s legitimacy and democratic character by cementing permanent occupation of the Palestinians, has become a mainstream objective on the political right, particularly in this most recent campaign.

[Cary]

2. It's as if they want to turn everyone against them

I cannot support ethnic cleansing.

[former9thward]

3. When the Arab states wiped out Jewish populations was that ok?

[Cary]

4. Explain the relevance of that.

One ethnic cleansing justifies another? How does that work?

[former9thward]

5. There is no "ethnic cleansing" going on in Israel.

Maybe you should visit sometime if you are not afraid of facts....

[Cary]

7. How do you know where I visited?

And what business is that of yours?

How about being good enough to answer the question instead of engaging in ad hominem?

[former9thward]

9. Maybe you should read better.

I said that if you think "ethnic cleansing" was going on in Israel maybe you should visit the country.

[Cary]

11. That isn't an answer to the question I asked you.

You doubled down on your ad hominem. There is nothing wrong with my reading comprehension.

But you know that.

Answer the question.

[Mosby]

6. the far right lost badly

Bennett, Shaked, Feiglin.

Most Israelis voted center-right and center-left.

Bibi is not going to annex the WB, he stated that he wants to bring the major settlement blocs into Israel proper.

Without a real peace partner, what are they supposed to do? Nothing will change until Abbas dies, and then there will be an internal battle for control of the PA and Fatah. There is no indication that any elections will happen so whoever ends up leading they will not have international legitimacy. How do you sign deals with dictators who could be gone at any time?

[Cary]

8. I don't have the answer

[guillaumeb]

10. But bringing the settlement blocs into Israel proper is defacto annexation.

So he avoids the term, while ding what he claims that he will not do.

[Cary]

12. "Without a real peace partner" sounds convenient to me

I haven't seen any evidence that Bibi wants peace.

[Mosby]

13. I don't know where he stands publically

I don't think he wants a Palestinian state to emerge either, but the bottom line is that the Palestinian leadership are making it easy for him, they are fragmented between Hamas and Fatah, so they have no clear democratically elected leadership structure, Abbas won't negotiate without preconditions like withdrawing all the Israelis from the WB (which is absurd) and demanding the "right of return" for 6 million refugees. Further, the Jordanians, Lebanese, and Syrians have no plans to make peace with Israel. Because of all this, Israeli are concerned about security and the economy, and that's about it.