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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBarr's 4 page letter: ". . . nor did the Special Counsel obtain any sealed indictments
that have yet to be made public."
And now we learn about Assange's indictment, filed March 6, 2018.
ON EDIT: Some réponses here have convinced me that this indictment came out of EDVA, but not Mueller. Thank you.
On the other hand, Barr's statement in his letter was deceptively written to imply (to the general public, at least) that there were no related sealed indictments. And yet today there are reports that the DOJ is saying there may be additional charges for Assange.
Are there any other sealed indictments out there that began or are closely related to Mueller's investigation?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/03/24/us/politics/barr-letter-mueller-report.html
The Special Counsel obtained a number of indictments and convictions of individuals and entities in connection with his investigation, all of which have been publicly disclosed. During the course of his investigation, the Special Counsel also referred several matters to other offices for further action. The report does not recommend any further indictments, nor did the Special Counsel obtain any sealed indictments that have yet to be made public.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Recommended.
True Blue American
(17,986 posts)20 to cover up.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)of the Russians.
So why would Mueller have passed it off?
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Is there evidence this is the case?
Because I seem to recall Wikileaks being (publicly) indicted as part of that tranche of Russians.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Just sayin'
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)But rather the long-before theft of documents by Manning, who then gave them to Wikileaks for distribution. You know, the whole reason Manning went to jail, and Assange has been hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy since well before the DNC theft happened?
Ergo, this doesn't appear to be a Mueller-case indictment, hence we really don't have Barr on 'lying' when he said Mueller had issued no addt'l non-public/sealed indictments.
Which is NOT to say I would be at all surprised if it turns out he's lied his ass off about OTHER things or cases
triron
(22,007 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)Mister Ed
(5,940 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)Regardless... the indictment is already public. It comes from prosecutors in VA and the national security division of Justice and the charges go back well before Trump (think Chelsea Manning)
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)But, if you're correct, then at the very least Barr wrote that passage very deceptively.
triron
(22,007 posts)FBaggins
(26,748 posts)That at least started with Mueller.
Im sure that Barr twisted to the extent he thought he could... but Mueller wouldnt have shut down the investigation with work still to do.
triron
(22,007 posts)Congress?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)Someone should pull Barr out of Spanky's ass and tell him how much he screwed up.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)That March 2018 time period seems roughly around then but I don't recall exactly.
And are you actually sure this indictment was not previously 'public'?
world wide wally
(21,744 posts)Don't believe a word of what any of them say.
ksoze
(2,068 posts)pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Like the Manafort cases?
former9thward
(32,028 posts)Who says this is Mueller?
ksoze
(2,068 posts)TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Barr and Trump...like two peas in a pod. The truth is not a necessary element of the daily life of either one.
former9thward
(32,028 posts)This came from D.C. Scores of prosecutors there.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,960 posts)
not from the Special Council - it's an off-shoot investigation.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,960 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)his investigation and he was reporting on the Obama lawyer, not Assange. So more indictments may be coming related to Mueller, not Barr. Is this similar to what you are referring to?
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/11/obama-white-house-counsel-gregory-craig-charged-by-federal-prosecutors.html
KPN
(15,646 posts)do wth Mueller. What is your source that Barr lied about this?
ashredux
(2,606 posts)Mueller was ready for such and farmed out indictments...Barr will be shown a liar.