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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:37 AM Apr 2019

It is time to remove Bill Barr from his position. He is too corrupt for the position of AG!

Rick Wilson buries Bill Barr’s ‘dangerous’ testimony: He’s dedicating himself ‘to the service of evil’

Longtime Republican strategist Rick Wilson has written a scathing column in The Daily Beast ripping apart Attorney General Bill Barr for his Senate testimony where he said that the Trump campaign had been “spied” upon without citing any evidence to back up his claim.

Wilson takes Barr to task for transforming from a civil servant into a stooge for an authoritarian president — or as Wilson puts it, Barr has joined a long list of historical figures who began as “competent people” before being “given over to the service of evil.”



https://www.rawstory.com/2019/04/rick-wilson-buries-bill-barrs-dangerous-testimony-hes-dedicating-service-evil/

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It is time to remove Bill Barr from his position. He is too corrupt for the position of AG! (Original Post) UCmeNdc Apr 2019 OP
And how do you propose to do that? onenote Apr 2019 #1
Impeachment appal_jack Apr 2019 #9
And in what universe are there enough votes to remove him? onenote Apr 2019 #12
Impeachment does not remove anybody. drray23 Apr 2019 #19
You both are missing the point. appal_jack Apr 2019 #22
I agree duforsure Apr 2019 #2
How would you like to do that? bearsfootball516 Apr 2019 #3
A thoroughly corrupt, soulless, vile excuse for a human dalton99a Apr 2019 #4
Agree! Also .. ananda Apr 2019 #5
Being a suck-up is not illegal A DAY IN THE LIFE Apr 2019 #6
Everyone knew he is a gop stooge. Scarsdale Apr 2019 #17
"Being evil or serving evil is not illegal" FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #21
I've been posting that we MUST use the word CORRUPT in reference to Barr. blm Apr 2019 #7
ok not a good player sweetapogee Apr 2019 #8
That's an understatement! 2naSalit Apr 2019 #10
Sure. OK. How many Republican votes in the Senate would there be MineralMan Apr 2019 #11
Nothing ventured nothing gained DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #13
That's not always true. Failed ventures often set things back irretrievably. MineralMan Apr 2019 #14
The repubicans may have had a temporary set back from the Clinton impeachment DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #15
What is your experience in long-range effects of political action? MineralMan Apr 2019 #18
My experience is of little consequence DirtEdonE Apr 2019 #20
I agree. notdarkyet Apr 2019 #16
Thank you! My full agreement posted upthread. nt appal_jack Apr 2019 #23
 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
9. Impeachment
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:01 AM
Apr 2019

Impeachment is well within Congress' powers and in fact duties when someone as criminal as Barr heads an agency as important as DOJ.

-app

drray23

(7,634 posts)
19. Impeachment does not remove anybody.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 11:35 AM
Apr 2019

You also need conviction by the Senate. I doubt the repubs would vote to convict him after they just confirmed him

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
22. You both are missing the point.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:23 PM
Apr 2019

Barr kept the Mueller report confidential and put-out his own "summary" (not) in order to frame the narrative. Why are Democrats waiting for their opponents to define the issues?

Barr has obstructed justice. Barr has served as personal lawyer to Criminal Trump, being paid with our tax dollars. Democrats could bring charges, hold weeks of hearings, and eviscerate Barr and everything he has touched. Yet, instead, we jump straight to Republican opposition, and again let them frame the debate.

I'll tell you, a well run impeachment hearing against Barr at this stage could and should make him so radioactive that Trump tries to fire him in the next step of the ongoing coverup.

-app

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
2. I agree
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:41 AM
Apr 2019

He's sided with Putin and trump, and against the rule of law altogether, and protecting the criminals.He should be behind Barrs. A corrupt AG has no place in OUR government.

 
6. Being a suck-up is not illegal
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:53 AM
Apr 2019

What are the specific laws he violated? Yes the AG is supposed to be independent, but where is the law that says it has to be that way? Being evil or serving evil is not illegal. What is the physical evidence of any wrong doing?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
21. "Being evil or serving evil is not illegal"
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 05:16 PM
Apr 2019

Well, then we can all go home.

Case closed.

(What if destroying human civilization is not specifically illegal? Should we just lie back and let it happen?)

blm

(113,065 posts)
7. I've been posting that we MUST use the word CORRUPT in reference to Barr.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:54 AM
Apr 2019

His actions and words are proving he is corrupt.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
11. Sure. OK. How many Republican votes in the Senate would there be
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:23 AM
Apr 2019

for his removal following impeachment by the House? Let us know how many you think there are.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
13. Nothing ventured nothing gained
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:34 AM
Apr 2019

Turn the tables. The repubicans would have this guy charged and impeached in about 24 hours whether they had the votes in the Senate or not - just to send the message and get the photos and videos of them looking solemn, carrying their brief cases full of evidence like the did when they impeached President Clinton, knowing it wouldn't make it through the Senate.

It's about controlling the news cycle and the dialogue. "We don't have the votes" is the slogan of losers. repubicans don't give a damn about votes, the rule of law or anything else. They get their images and their message out there in the nastiest way possible. Time to fight fire with fire. Or we could just sit on our hands and wait until we have the votes like the repubicans - not.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
14. That's not always true. Failed ventures often set things back irretrievably.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:55 AM
Apr 2019

The impeachment of Bill Clinton cost the Republicans their majority in the House, because of the backlash. While it might feel good, temporarily, if the House impeached Barr, he would not be removed by the Senate, and would retain his position, assuming Trump didn't fire him on a whim.

There's an ever greater risk in impeaching Trump and failing to remove him. It's easy to light a match, but not always so easy to get a fire going in the fireplace. Any impeachment proceeding would run right into the 2020 campaign season. Such things don't happen quickly, by any means.

I leave such decisions to our House majority. If they think it's a bad idea to proceed with an impeachment, I'll rely on their experience and better knowledge of what the political effect would be.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
15. The repubicans may have had a temporary set back from the Clinton impeachment
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 11:04 AM
Apr 2019

But just look at them now. They were obviously not worried about a temporary set back or backlash. It's about setting a long term agenda and sticking with it. This makes them look strong even when they are wrong.

I'm sick and tired of hearing we don't have the votes or we'd better be careful or it might backfire. New Jersey, for example, has a Democratic majority in both houses and we have the governor's office yet we somehow still don't have the votes to pass several of our own Democratic governor's initiatives! This makes us look weak even when we are right.

It's time to stop counter-punching and go on the attack on all fronts with all weapons at our disposal. This is a fight for our nation's future. Will we be a democracy or a dictatorship? While we're worrying about having enough votes they're setting up one party rule. By the time we decide to finally fight back, it'll be too late.

Impeachment is off the table won't cut it this time.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
18. What is your experience in long-range effects of political action?
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 11:15 AM
Apr 2019

Give us some clues about why we should take your advice. Thanks.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
20. My experience is of little consequence
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 11:50 AM
Apr 2019

But FYI I've been watching this ridiculous show since about Eisenhower and the long range effects of allowing repubicans to write, enforce and adjudicate the laws is apparent in the reagan, bushx2 and now trump fiasco.

They win because they're not afraid to take on short term divisive positions. They just keep kicking the can down the road and it's worked since reagan. While we're wasting our time looking for just the right strategies.

And losing.

My experience in long range effects. pfttt.

I had professors who used that tactic. It didn't work then either. Take my advice or don't. Get back to me in 2020 when the results are in and we're still looking for the right message.

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