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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:03 AM Apr 2019

Not SNL... Jaw dropping actual transcript from Congress on Tuesday..

Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY): Sec. Kerry, I want to read part of your statement back to you: “Instead of convening a kangaroo court, the president might want to talk with the educated adults he once trusted his top national security positions.” It sounds like you’re questioning the credentials of the president’s advisers, currently. But I think we should question your credentials today. Isn’t it true you have a science degree from Yale?

Kerry: Bachelor of arts degree.

Massie: Is it a political science degree?

Kerry: Yes, political science.

Massie: So how do you get a bachelor of arts, in a science?

Kerry: Well it’s a liberal arts education and degree. It’s a bachelor…

Massie: OK. So it’s not really science. So I think it’s somewhat appropriate that someone with a pseudo-science degree is here pushing pseudo-science in front of our committee today.

Kerry: Are you serious?! I mean this is really a serious happening here?

Massie: You know what? It is serious. You’re calling the president’s Cabinet a “kangaroo court.” Is that serious?

Kerry: I’m not calling his Cabinet a kangaroo court, I’m calling this committee that he’s putting together a kangaroo committee.

Massie: Are you saying it doesn’t have educated adults now?

Kerry: I don’t know who it has yet because it’s secret.

Massie: Well you said it in your testimony.

Kerry: Why would he have to have a secret analysis of climate change?

Massie: Let’s get back to the science of it.

Kerry: But it’s not science, you’re not quoting science!

Massie: Well, You’re the science expert. You have the political science degree.


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Not SNL... Jaw dropping actual transcript from Congress on Tuesday.. (Original Post) ehrnst Apr 2019 OP
And just like that Massie is at the top of the moron list. Vinca Apr 2019 #1
I'm just picturing him looking back at his staff and miming "mic drop." SNL could cast Beck Bennett ehrnst Apr 2019 #2
"Tell me about this bachelor of science degree.. dubyadiprecession Apr 2019 #16
Massie is playing the idiot for political theater's sake... SKKY Apr 2019 #3
Having an engineering degree from MIT 2naSalit Apr 2019 #6
His disdain for "liberal science" types stank right through the video. ehrnst Apr 2019 #8
Yeah, that too.. 2naSalit Apr 2019 #10
That's it. yardwork Apr 2019 #31
Oh yea, I agree 100%... SKKY Apr 2019 #17
That's where the being 2naSalit Apr 2019 #19
I've met a lot of people MurrayDelph Apr 2019 #49
Thank you True Blue American Apr 2019 #50
Sub-reddit class Tech Bro, with all the arrogant, clueless entitlement that comes with it. ehrnst Apr 2019 #7
Nah. I've met too many dumb as fuck Creationists who are engineers, physicists, physicians etc.. hunter Apr 2019 #38
Massie's twitter claims he played with Kerry like a shark with a seal. NT enough Apr 2019 #4
They are delusional talk radio repeaters. blm Apr 2019 #11
So Massie unwittingly admits his cannibalist tendencies. raging moderate Apr 2019 #15
But their followers ADMIRE that. FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #43
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #42
The optics were amazing. 2naSalit Apr 2019 #5
Can someone go line by line and explain what Massie's intent was with each response? Baitball Blogger Apr 2019 #9
Massie thinks he's being super clever because Massie has a science degree from MIT. pnwmom Apr 2019 #18
he was playing to trump, fox news and the idiotic trumpsupporters stevesinpa Apr 2019 #33
He is trying to imply Kerry knows nothing about science treestar Apr 2019 #46
Hey Massie, did you know that Mars Bars are made right here on earth? The Genealogist Apr 2019 #12
"Well I've never seen no plants growing out of no toilet." nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2019 #13
Brawndo Mendocino Apr 2019 #26
It's what plants crave! UpInArms Apr 2019 #54
LOL, wonder what Massie would make of my bachelor of science in journalism degree. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2019 #14
That's the daily double. n/t Harker Apr 2019 #23
..... ehrnst Apr 2019 #45
Reminds me of..... Historic NY Apr 2019 #20
Heh heh. Chin music Apr 2019 #30
Good one happy feet Apr 2019 #41
The Twitter responses are absolutely hilarious exboyfil Apr 2019 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author java108 Apr 2019 #22
I can't find anything funny about this. java108 Apr 2019 #24
The man's in Congress but doesn't know what a "political science degree" is? George II Apr 2019 #25
Willful ignorance. LakeArenal Apr 2019 #27
And a PhD can practice medicine. keithbvadu2 Apr 2019 #28
Ah, but the Dr. shouldn't be practicing!! BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2019 #44
Massie is Lex Luthor smart and evil. Great radio soundbite for his base. They eat that shit up. IADEMO2004 Apr 2019 #29
These are the kinds of idiots the GOP is putting into power Johnny2X2X Apr 2019 #32
Brazen, mind-numbing stupidity. It's intentionally exhausting, it's meant to wear us down. chia Apr 2019 #34
Massie can't attack Kerry's message so he attacks the messenger. Rs do alot of that. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2019 #35
My bachelor of arts degree is in physics. athena Apr 2019 #36
He's got a BS and MS from MIT, Engineering. I think he is play acting for his base. Shrike47 Apr 2019 #37
It's amazing that his supporters would fall for this. athena Apr 2019 #40
But that is only Engineering True Blue American Apr 2019 #51
Just KKKubuki theater Mendocino Apr 2019 #39
Does Massie know that a teaching degree in education is a Bachelor of Science degree? YOHABLO Apr 2019 #47
This.. osmium Apr 2019 #48
How does SNL Soxfan58 Apr 2019 #52
I'm so embarressed for our state kyburbonkid Apr 2019 #53
I don't post very often but, rant warning: I can't believe America has come to this. yerop Apr 2019 #55
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
2. I'm just picturing him looking back at his staff and miming "mic drop." SNL could cast Beck Bennett
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:13 AM
Apr 2019

as Kerry, Melissa McCarthy as Massie, and just use the actual transcript...

dubyadiprecession

(5,716 posts)
16. "Tell me about this bachelor of science degree..
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:03 AM
Apr 2019

Why are you against married couples that want to graduate from college?”

SKKY

(11,813 posts)
3. Massie is playing the idiot for political theater's sake...
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:13 AM
Apr 2019

...Dude went to MIT. He's not a dummy like, say, Louie Gohmert or someone like that. Which I guess makes him look even more ridiculous.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
6. Having an engineering degree from MIT
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:25 AM
Apr 2019

does not necessarily translate to having human qualities or common sense. My dad was an electronics engineering whizz but he was also a horrible human being... if he had been monied, he could have been another dolt45.

He obviously has no mental connection to social science and probably has no business being in government if that is his mindset.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
8. His disdain for "liberal science" types stank right through the video.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:28 AM
Apr 2019

"MIT Tech bro takes down old Yale guy!!!" ~ his own brain.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
10. Yeah, that too..
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:33 AM
Apr 2019

says the person with an advanced polisci degree.

He was blatant, to put it mildly. I'm glad Kerry called him on it as he was quite childish and obviously trying to derail the topic at hand.

SKKY

(11,813 posts)
17. Oh yea, I agree 100%...
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:12 AM
Apr 2019

...But he knows what Political Science is. He knows it's not "pseudoscience". He's playing theater for one. I'd much prefer it if he were just that stupid.

MurrayDelph

(5,299 posts)
49. I've met a lot of people
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 02:18 AM
Apr 2019

who somehow believe that just because they are an expert at one thing they are an expert at everything.

Amazingly, besides being wrong, most of them have more than a touch of libertarianism in them.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
50. Thank you
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 05:31 AM
Apr 2019

I was just thinking the same thing. Engineering has nothing to do with climate change.

Not sure who is the dumbest Republican Congress person.

Matt Gaetz and his ignorant pencil neck. Massie,Gohmert and his asparagus, Gym Jordan, Mark Meadows and his token or McCarthy. They all blend in together.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
7. Sub-reddit class Tech Bro, with all the arrogant, clueless entitlement that comes with it.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:26 AM
Apr 2019

"I TOTALLY pwnd this old YALE dude!"

The KKK had doctors and lawyers among them, so education isn't an innoculation against cluelessness in other areas.

hunter

(38,318 posts)
38. Nah. I've met too many dumb as fuck Creationists who are engineers, physicists, physicians etc..
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:39 AM
Apr 2019

There's even a few bad biologists who were dishonest enough to pass their exams by regurgitating the evolutionary theory they'd refused. They are bad biologists because Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution (Theodosius Dobzhansky). Dobzhansky is is interesting because his sharp scientific insights about evolution coexisted with his religious beliefs.

There's an amateur scientist named Forrest Mims who does some interesting work, and writes quite wonderful books and articles about electronics, but his Christian Creationist views have blinded him to a great extent, and have caused him to promote some bizarre theories, not just science theories. He was rejected as the Scientific American amateur scientist columnist for this reason. Outside his obsession with electronics, he's just not that bright. I'd say Massie is a similar sort.

raging moderate

(4,306 posts)
15. So Massie unwittingly admits his cannibalist tendencies.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:53 AM
Apr 2019

These people keep broadcasting the fact that they are predators. They see themselves as the only true humans, and they see the rest of us as their legitimate prey.

Response to enough (Reply #4)

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
5. The optics were amazing.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:19 AM
Apr 2019

I watched that interaction on some news stream and this clown was so full of himself, pointing at Kerry like he couldn't figure out what he was gonna do next, like: "You know what? I'm gonna show you, you ,you... just shut up, I;m gonna show you!"

That was what it was like, no wonder Kerry truncated his act. It was like a bad attempt at comedy. Sad.

Baitball Blogger

(46,743 posts)
9. Can someone go line by line and explain what Massie's intent was with each response?
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:31 AM
Apr 2019

I can't for the life of me, follow his logic. It sounded like he was trying to dominate the situation by using a superior mocking tone, but his questions kept undermining him.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
18. Massie thinks he's being super clever because Massie has a science degree from MIT.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019

And yet he comes across as a sheer idiot.

stevesinpa

(143 posts)
33. he was playing to trump, fox news and the idiotic trumpsupporters
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019

fox news will pretend he got the better of the situation, and trump supporters, with their lack of critical thinking skills will make him a hero. and trump will treat him as a great lackey. that was his goal

treestar

(82,383 posts)
46. He is trying to imply Kerry knows nothing about science
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 07:52 PM
Apr 2019

but is claiming to because of having a B.A. in political "science."

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
12. Hey Massie, did you know that Mars Bars are made right here on earth?
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 08:38 AM
Apr 2019

My partner and I have been laughing about this compete idiot's ignorance since last night.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
20. Reminds me of.....
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:29 AM
Apr 2019

Lawyer: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
Witness: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight
Lawyer: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
Witness: No.
Lawyer: Did you check for blood pressure?
Witness: No.
Lawyer: Did you check for breathing?
Witness: No.
Lawyer: So, then, it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
Witness: No.
Lawyer: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
Witness: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
Lawyer: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
Witness: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
21. The Twitter responses are absolutely hilarious
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:30 AM
Apr 2019

?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Of course a political scientist is important for assessing the impact of climate change. It impacts people directly, some of them in life threatening ways. That is what political scientists study.

Response to ehrnst (Original post)

java108

(129 posts)
24. I can't find anything funny about this.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:34 AM
Apr 2019

The GOPigs are now ramrodding willful ignorance and obfuscation.

They are cockroaches.

Johnny2X2X

(19,069 posts)
32. These are the kinds of idiots the GOP is putting into power
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 09:55 AM
Apr 2019

My word, horrifying. An elected member of Congress doesn't know what the term Political Science refers to.

athena

(4,187 posts)
36. My bachelor of arts degree is in physics.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:21 AM
Apr 2019

And it’s from one of the top physics departments in the country, at an Ivy League university. Massie has no idea what he’s talking about. Perhaps someone should look into whether he ever got a college degree, since he seems to be completely clueless about the terminology.

athena

(4,187 posts)
40. It's amazing that his supporters would fall for this.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 10:48 AM
Apr 2019

The Republican Party has been taken over by sociopaths.

True Blue American

(17,986 posts)
51. But that is only Engineering
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 05:36 AM
Apr 2019

Nothing to do with climate change.

Massie got his 5 minutes, now everyone is laughing at him. From Kerry to Massoe! How far the mighty have fallen.

osmium

(94 posts)
48. This..
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 01:57 AM
Apr 2019

I agree with the sentiment, but quoting J.B.S. Haldane is a little too obscure. "Stupid 1984," heh. I guess the attempted grilling was done in Room 101.


kyburbonkid

(251 posts)
53. I'm so embarressed for our state
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 07:20 AM
Apr 2019

It has to be all of the oxy-cotton in the water. Oxycontin too. There is a special brand of crazy in republicans here and the Morain Massie just revealed some of his.

 

yerop

(89 posts)
55. I don't post very often but, rant warning: I can't believe America has come to this.
Fri Apr 12, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

Just in the last few days: Seeing Mnuchin acting like a creepy child in front of Waters, old clips of Herman Cain (up to be on the Fed. Reserve) fumbling like a gradeschooler to answer simple questions, William Barr's lunkheaded talk of "spying", airhead nutcase Candace Owens on behalf of the GOP at a hate crimes hearing--not to mention laughing out loud (but sadly) at Trump's senile "anti-climb" and "oringes" rambles... I can't believe America has come to this. It's like one long cringe. The Republican Party! We said there'd never get back in after the disaster of the GWBush and now here they are making GWBush look like Einstein in comparison. I am losing hope for America. End of rant.

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