dems get a big weapon, will they use it? McConnell calls for "medicare for none"

[msongs]

not holding my breath on dems using this effectively if at all...

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/4/10/1849398/-Medicare-For-None-Holy-Hell-Mitch-gave-Democrats-THE-soundbite-for-2020?utm_campaign=trending

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[democratisphere]

1. Americans need to take away healthcare from rethuglicon members

of Congress and their families unless they are willing to provide the same for ALL.

[elleng]

4. NOT SMART to suggest such,

and of course it will never happen; Federal Government employees are entitled to participate in https://www.opm.gov/healthcare-insurance/healthcare/plan-information/plans/

[mr_lebowski]

2. I don't even have to watch to know that the point he was making was ...

"If Medicare for All is enacted as Dems call for, we'll end up with Medicare for None" (i.e. because the money isn't there).

Medicare-for-All, along w/Free College ... are freaking stupid 'rallying crys'.

Calling for Medicare for All is a great way to get almost 0 people > 65 to vote for you. Repubs will hammer the idea to older folks that "You paid for this your whole life, and Dems now just want to give it away to everyone?!? There'll be no money left for YOU!"

The handing of the 'weapon' is being done by those on OUR SIDE, who promote this idea. And the counter-move by the GOP is so obvious it's friggin' ridiculous.

They're already showing us that they haven't missed the opportunity.

And guess what? It WILL work, too.

This is my biggest issue with Bernie, tbh.

Many of his 'slogans' ... suck.

[OhioBlue]

5. I disagree. 65 and older have loved ones that would benefit from Medicare for all.

Lots of people struggle with when to retire based on health benefits and I have heard so many stories of how retirement plans now are excluding spouses for medical coverage. Spouses may have been stay at home or self employed or worked in part time or even full time jobs that didn't offer medical and were covered by their spouses employer, now they are looking at huge family expenses if they choose to retire due to the continued downward slide of benefits. Single Payer or Medicare for all are needed for our society. There are too many loop holes and hurdles for health care.

[mr_lebowski]

6. I didn't say something like this wasn't needed, I said it's a bad slogan ...

Handing the other side ammo.

Talk about "Phased Medicare Buy-In for people under 65" ... instead. Talk about a Public Option ... instead.

Touting "Medicare for All" can be way too easily used as a bludgeon against us, as can "Free College".

We have to be smarter than this with messaging.

[thesquanderer]

8. I figured the image/headline might be misleading, good call.

I'm always suspicious when you can't watch the actual clip. And sometimes even when you can.

[elleng]

3. They've provided us with lots of such weapons,

and we often fail to use them.

Recall mcconnell's many words about President Obama.

[Scarsdale]

7. We just read about

the BILLIONS lost by Medicare for the braces scam. Rick Scott from Florida was the perpetrator of a HUGE scam worth Millions from his fraud of medical facilities. If all this money is available for scammers, how can gop say the country can not afford a national health service? tRump is getting Billions for his stupid wall by cutting Pentagon budget, yet medical coverage is too expensive? All other western countries have medical coverage for their citizens, why not this country???