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Demovictory9

(32,457 posts)
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:01 PM Apr 2019

Police fined her when she kept reporting her ex-boyfriend for stalking. Then he killed her.

Police fined her when she kept reporting her ex-boyfriend for stalking. Then he killed her.



For months, Shana Grice had been telling police that her ex-boyfriend was stalking her.

The 19-year-old had caught him trailing her in her car and creeping into her bedroom after stealing a spare house key, breathing near her as she hid under her comforter and waited for him to leave, prosecutors later said. Then there were the seven phone calls from a blocked number in one day, with silence on the other end, according to the Argus.

Michael Lane was told to leave her alone but, ultimately, Grice was punished, fined for wasting the authorities’ time. Then in August 2016, Lane killed her — cutting her throat in her home in England and setting her bedroom on fire, according to local news reports.

After an investigation from the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) into the police department’s response, two officers — one of whom has since retired — will face disciplinary action next month, Sussex Police said Wednesday in a statement to The Washington Post. Another officer will face “internal misconduct proceedings,” and three others have received “management advice and further training.”

“When we looked at the circumstances leading to Shana’s murder, we felt we may not have done the very best we could,” Sussex Police Assistant Chief Constable Nick May said in the statement.


“Our then Deputy Chief Constable personally visited Shana’s family to apologize on behalf of Sussex Police. Since then we have undertaken all their recommendations, thoroughly reviewed all aspects of how we deal with cases of stalking and harassment and have significantly improved our service to victims,” he added.


Grice reported Lane to the police for stalking at least five times before her death — and so had 13 other women, according to BBC News.

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Police fined her when she kept reporting her ex-boyfriend for stalking. Then he killed her. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2019 OP
13 other women, and the police Ilsa Apr 2019 #1
"we felt we may not have done the very best we could" Demovictory9 Apr 2019 #2
How British. lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #21
Wow... ck4829 Apr 2019 #24
No shit they hadn't done the very best they could. BASTARDS. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2019 #3
"Chief Constable personally visited Shana's family to apologize on behalf of Sussex Police" ... marble falls Apr 2019 #4
Weeping jayschool2013 Apr 2019 #5
Omg. area51 Apr 2019 #6
Fuck "apologies" that clearly try to forestall legal action against the whole department. ancianita Apr 2019 #7
Fourteen victims and they didn't see this guy as a serious threat?? lpbk2713 Apr 2019 #8
Men protecting men. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2019 #9
Yep. Nay Apr 2019 #15
This. CrispyQ Apr 2019 #18
Yep ck4829 Apr 2019 #25
Lawsuit. They were unbelievably negligent. Then the creep will probably get 10 years, if catbyte Apr 2019 #10
he got life Demovictory9 Apr 2019 #13
I hope so, but the average length of time they stay in prison is 15 years before parole. catbyte Apr 2019 #16
His minimum sentence is 25 years TheOther95Percent Apr 2019 #22
The Real Police courtjester Apr 2019 #11
"we felt we may not have done the very best we could"....ya think? Hulk Apr 2019 #12
Male cops tend to empathize with the man, not the woman. SunSeeker Apr 2019 #14
Reminds me of Tracey Thurman (US) except Thurman survived (barely) to sue the city. (and win) Solly Mack Apr 2019 #17
Remind me again: There is some good reason to HAVE police, right? FiveGoodMen Apr 2019 #19
What are the laws like in England? inwiththenew Apr 2019 #20
K&R ck4829 Apr 2019 #23
Grrr! smirkymonkey Apr 2019 #26

marble falls

(57,112 posts)
4. "Chief Constable personally visited Shana's family to apologize on behalf of Sussex Police" ...
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:11 PM
Apr 2019

Just about a slap in their faces.

ancianita

(36,101 posts)
7. Fuck "apologies" that clearly try to forestall legal action against the whole department.
Wed Apr 10, 2019, 11:56 PM
Apr 2019

Women and male allies in that area -- Sussex? -- must get rid of the powers that be, AND the "independent" review SYSTEM that also "may not have done the very best" in reviewing repeated assaults by one perpetrator.

At least, with WOMEN running the police force, it won't be just a dick protection force.

Women must stop men from outflanking them institutionally.

catbyte

(34,407 posts)
10. Lawsuit. They were unbelievably negligent. Then the creep will probably get 10 years, if
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:18 AM
Apr 2019

that. I've seen some pretty despicably short sentences in the UK when domestic violence is involved.

On edit: Here, too, actually.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
22. His minimum sentence is 25 years
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 07:52 PM
Apr 2019

If you read the tag under the photo here, it says he got 25 years (Judges specify a minimum before parole eligibility according to your link).

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/shana-grice-murder-judge-remarks-full-michael-lane-killer-ex-girlfriend-police-time-wasting-a7646951.html

Here's another article that says his minimum sentence is 25 years. Not enough given the circumstances of the crime.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/782961/Michael-Lane-Shana-Grice-sentence-murder-jail

courtjester

(43 posts)
11. The Real Police
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:33 AM
Apr 2019

Don't you know that they are the real police and hence real macho men who just can't be bothered with such sissy stuff like that ! They have to get ready for the terrorist attack that is coming at any moment and that they are the only ones who know about it!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
12. "we felt we may not have done the very best we could"....ya think?
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 12:39 AM
Apr 2019

This is sad and tragic. Nothing more to say.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
14. Male cops tend to empathize with the man, not the woman.
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:45 AM
Apr 2019

They tend to put themselves in his shoes and give him the benefit of the doubt--but not the woman. Even when they are supposed to be protecting the woman. Even when 13 other women are reporting the same man for the same crime. It is fucking sickening.

Solly Mack

(90,773 posts)
17. Reminds me of Tracey Thurman (US) except Thurman survived (barely) to sue the city. (and win)
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 01:13 PM
Apr 2019

They (Sussex Police) can take their apology and shove it up their misogynistic ass.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
20. What are the laws like in England?
Thu Apr 11, 2019, 02:56 PM
Apr 2019

If that was here you'd would be shit out of luck for any recourse as the courts have decided that the police are under no duty to protect an individual except in a very narrow set of circumstances when you are in custody of the police.

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