Ah, John Fugelsang

[Siwsan]

[handmade34]

1. maybe apples and oranges...

and while I like Fugelsang… we have serious divisions in this Country that have killed many more...

healthcare and guns...

between 20,000 and 45,000 Americans die each year due to a lack of health insurance

So many people die annually from gunfire in the US that the death toll between 1968 and 2011 eclipses all wars ever fought by the country. According to research by Politifact, there were about 1.4 million firearm deaths in that period

[bluescribbler]

2. Most of the firearm deaths were not politically motivated.

Domestic violence, mental illness, poverty, gang violence, and crimes of passion and opportunity most likely account for the vast majority of those deaths.

:caveat: I don't have statistics at hand to support this, but I believe it to be true based on my watching the news.

[handmade34]

5. my point

is that our divisions are preventing us from implementing good affordable health care for all and effective gun control... I understand the gun statistics, but if we were of like mind and guns weren't so accessible, those gun deaths (no matter the reason) would lessen

[Ztolkins]

11. Yeah..but then climate change would be even worse right now.

[MyOwnPeace]

3. Really?

You think THAT is the issue - what somebody "tweets?"

There are serious problems and issues out there and worrying about "dudes tweeting" is not one of them, unless, of course, some tweets dictate American policy.

[Siwsan]

4. Perspective

Not everything is in need of surgical parsing.

[erronis]

6. Nice. Unless some twit is supposedly in charge of American policy.

Not sure who really dictates these tweets. Seem to have multiple authors. And some seem to have translational problems - cyrrilic?

[UniteFightBack]

19. Really you think THAT is the issue what someone posts about somebody tweeting?

There are serious problems and issues out there and worrying about "dudes tweeting" is not one of them, unless, of course, some tweets dictate American policy.

[erronis]

7. How many of these deaths were not directly caused by war injuries? Collateral (or intended) damage?

And maybe the 700,000 doesn't even include those children and others that died of starvation or war-caused disease.

Most wars are horrible but especially so because the active line participants and the collaterals don't have any say whatsoever in their fates.

When the generals and the peeResidents and the mucky-mucks start having their lives impacted, then war might be just. Not until then.

[Siwsan]

8. What strikes me about the Civil War is that it set brother against brother

Father against son. Schisms in families that, likely, never healed.

Which sound like what's happening, in a less lethal way, today.

[amywalk]

9. Reminiscent of @FoxNews and how it ruins some

Families and friendships.

[erronis]

10. Agree - and that's what the instigators (foreign/domestic?) want to sow. Discord/schisms.

Can be very lethal if it can be promulgated to the armed crazies, or even worse, to the military and law enforcement.

[yaesu]

12. These are the death statistics, military only

110,100 Union soldiers died in battle: 67,088 KIA, 43,012 MW.
224,580 died of disease.
30,192 died as prisoners of war
24,881 died of non-battle causes
1,804 members of the Navy were killed
3,000 died of wound of accident
2,226 were wounded (this must be a misprint, probably 200k). 1 Army commander, 3 corps commanders, 14 division commanders, and 67 brigade commanders, including 32 generals, were killed in the Union Army.

Confederate KIA and MW 94,000
Died of disease 164,000
Died as prisoners of war 31,000
Wounded: 194,026
1 Army Commander, 3 Corps commanders, 7 division commanders, and 62 brigade commanders were killed in the CSA Army.

Prisoners of War: Union, mortality rate of 15.5%
Confederate: 12%

[erronis]

20. Thank you, yaesu. Gruesome figures. War is hell. Except for the armchair leaders and their children.

[IronLionZion]

13. There it is, when our favorite liberals show their privilege

and forget about the people who are screwed and even murdered by policy and legislation and law enforcement because of who is in power

[Siwsan]

14. I'm guess I'm just not into endlessly dissecting and parsing

[IronLionZion]

15. When someone else is impacted

[Siwsan]

16. We obviously have very different perspectives on what John meant

Which is fine.

[UniteFightBack]

17. So very true...and as usual FUNNY! Please just ignore the folks who

want to over analyze every word and just ruin it.

[Siwsan]

18. Thank you!

And, I do try to filter - not successfully.