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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:38 PM Apr 2019

Lawrence on the Last Word read a part of the tax code that says it is illegal

for the president and Vice President and any of their underlings to tell the IRS to not comply with a lawful request for someone’s taxes.

That is not word for word.

The punishment is 5 years in prison. The same goes for anyone in the IRS who does the presidents bidding or withholds knowledge of the request.

Again not word for word

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Lawrence on the Last Word read a part of the tax code that says it is illegal (Original Post) wasupaloopa Apr 2019 OP
Also, the former IRS commissioner under Obama, watoos Apr 2019 #1
Mnuchin? Really?! BigmanPigman Apr 2019 #2
actually, he said that the Sec of the Treasury receives the 6103 requests. But the law spooky3 Apr 2019 #3
People might also be interested in this section of 6103(f): spooky3 Apr 2019 #5
SHALL FURNISH! SergeStorms Apr 2019 #8
exactly! nt spooky3 Apr 2019 #9
5 years for whom? The president or the IRS? ProudLib72 Apr 2019 #4
All persons mentioned in the law wasupaloopa Apr 2019 #7
The law doesn't give a time period for compliance Kablooie Apr 2019 #6
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
1. Also, the former IRS commissioner under Obama,
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 10:58 PM
Apr 2019

said that Mnuchin would make the call to release Trump's taxes.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
3. actually, he said that the Sec of the Treasury receives the 6103 requests. But the law
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:16 PM
Apr 2019

does not provide any "wiggle room" to "make the call." It says:

(Sec. 6103)

(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation

Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
5. People might also be interested in this section of 6103(f):
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:20 PM
Apr 2019

(5) Disclosure by whistleblower

Any person who otherwise has or had access to any return or return information under this section may disclose such return or return information to a committee referred to in paragraph (1) or any individual authorized to receive or inspect information under paragraph (4)(A) if such person believes such return or return information may relate to possible misconduct, maladministration, or taxpayer abuse.

So if Mnuchin illegally refuses to turn over the requested information, a whistleblower within the IRS may legally provide the info in confidence to the Chair of the WAMC if s/he meets the standard at the end of the sentence.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
8. SHALL FURNISH!
Fri Apr 5, 2019, 01:02 AM
Apr 2019

Not, "only if he wants to", or "if the president gives his permission", or "we'll take it to the Supreme Court to stop it", SHALL FURNISH!

I fully expect "The Mnuch" to defy the House Committee and protect Donnie Dim-Wit all the way to the Supreme Court though. Then we'll see what sticklers the Supremes are for "the rule of law", and what "strict Constitutionalists" they are. Then "the Mnuch" should then resign voluntarily. If not, he should be impeached, and yes, a Secretary of the Treasury can be impeached.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. 5 years for whom? The president or the IRS?
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:20 PM
Apr 2019

If that's 5 years for Rump, that's just a drop in the bucket (which I hope he soon kicks).

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
6. The law doesn't give a time period for compliance
Thu Apr 4, 2019, 11:22 PM
Apr 2019

So couldn't they just keep saying they are working on it and delay it until the 2020 election?

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