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hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 07:54 PM Apr 2019

Tim Apple. Oranges. German Dad. Mental Health Experts Warn That Trump Is Losing It.

Some say that the president’s language and behavior suggest cognitive decline, possibly associated with pre-dementia.



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-mental-health-pre-dementia_n_5ca51ea2e4b0409b0ec32806

President Donald Trump’s recent confusion with words and facts, including about his own father, could be signs of pre-dementia and deteriorating cognitive skills, mental health experts warn.

“The ‘Tim Apple’ episode a few weeks ago, his calling Venezuela a company, and then yesterday, confusing his grandfather’s birthplace with his father’s, mispronouncing ‘oranges’ for ‘origins,’ and stating out of the blue, ‘I’m very normal,’” recited Bandy Lee, a professor of psychiatry at Yale University who has been waving red flags about Trump’s mental state for years. “There is no question he needs an examination.”

“I think he’s suffering from pre-dementia. And it’s only getting worse,” said John Gartner, a clinical psychologist with practices in New York City and Baltimore.

Both acknowledged that they have not given Trump a full examination and could not offer a definitive diagnosis, but Gartner noted that the president’s behaviors are on full view every single day. “The evidence is right in front of our eyes,” he said.

The White House did not respond to queries about Trump’s recent spate of verbal miscues, including confusing his grandfather for his father during a photo opportunity on Tuesday.


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lindysalsagal

(20,695 posts)
1. Standard mobster tactic: Drool, stare off into space, refuse to eat, say weird things....
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 07:58 PM
Apr 2019

all so they'll leave you alone and forget about you....But this time, he's potus and so we have to totally remove him.

I still say one day we'll find out he's taken a private jet to argentina.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
4. The NYT had an article a couple days ago that said Trump wanted to limit his rallies
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:05 PM
Apr 2019

and was balking at going to California to fundraise. Somethings going on.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. Many of us have had parents with dementia-- and recognize the signs
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:04 PM
Apr 2019

The hostility, the repetition, the need for enemies-- however, Trump was never a good person, so it's probably not much of a change.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
5. The oranges thing is called aphasia and is a symptom of dementia.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:07 PM
Apr 2019

Trump was clearly getting frustrated because he knew what word he wanted to use but couldn't articulate it.

hlthe2b

(102,304 posts)
8. the article includes a good description of his malignant narcissism
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:36 PM
Apr 2019
On Twitter last month, George Conway wrote: “*All* Americans should be thinking seriously *now* about Trump’s mental condition and psychological state, including and especially the media, Congress ― and the vice president and Cabinet.”

That exhortation followed up on a string of Conway tweets listing the symptoms of narcissistic personality disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition.

Gartner, though, said Trump’s condition appears to be an even worse variant of that disorder and a condition that is common to dictators: malignant narcissism, whose traits include narcissism, paranoia, sociopathy ― exhibited by constant lying ― and sadism.

“He has been getting worse in the last few months,” Gartner said, adding that he agrees with Conway that earlier interviews show how far Trump’s decline has progressed. In the past, Garner said, “he not only spoke in complete sentences, he spoke in complete paragraphs.”

nuxvomica

(12,432 posts)
9. No. He's setting himself up for an insanity defense
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 08:51 PM
Apr 2019

This is a con artist. This is what they do. And it's a strong indicator that the Mueller Report has the goods on him.

marble falls

(57,114 posts)
10. He's falling apart. Think he'll pull a Ronald Reagan and claim diminished capacity or do ...
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:04 PM
Apr 2019

a Vincent "the chin" Galante?






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