Mueller baffles me

[SHRED]

I'm having a difficult time reconciling how Mueller can get shot serving this country and then watch while a draft dodger and the handpicked AG hide his report.

[RussBLib]

1. he was apparently working with Barr to redact some things in the report

Barr is his boss.

I would hope if Barr keeps playing hide-and-seek with the report, Mueller will speak up. AT SOME POINT.

[SHRED]

2. I've heard...

...the report was most likely redacted already by Mueller like all of his other filings were.

[GemDigger]

5. Why would Mueller redact his own report? Filing and reports are not the same thing.

He knows what needs to be redacted before it comes to anyone without a security clearance but why redact when it is handed in for those who need to know.

[okaawhatever]

21. I think what most are saying is that Mueller either handed Barr 2 reports, one with and one w/o

grand jury testimony, or that Mueller handed in the full report and Barr sent it back asking him to redact grand jury testimony. While one could go to court and ask the judge to allow release of grand jury testimony (as happened with Starr & Jaworski report) I believe the person who has to do that is the AG Barr, not Mueller. If Barr is refusing to do that, and Mueller isn't allowed to, there may be a legal issue with issuing the unredacted report (only concerning the GJ testimony portions).

While Barr initially claimed he would only redact 2 categories of information:

1. “Any information that could impact ongoing matters that the Special Counsel has referred to other officers.”

2. “Matters occurring before a grand jury”

In his letter of March 29, Barr added two new categories of redactions:

1. “Material the intelligence community identifies as potentially compromising sensitive sources and methods;”

2. “Information that would unduly infringe on the personal privacy and reputational interests of peripheral third parties.”


https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2019/03/31/why-barrs-delay-in-releasing-the-mueller-report-is-unprecedented-and-unreasonable/#124d83da4a40

I don't think anyone has a problem with 1. 2 can be addressed in court, so it's only an issue if Barr refuses to ask for permission. 3 and 4 are curious, and I think 3 was only published so it wouldn't be obvious what he was doing with #4.

[GemDigger]

24. Now I understand, thank you.

[onenote]

13. Who did you hear that from?

Because whomever it was almost certainly didn’t know what they were talking about.

[SHRED]

17. This guy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Figliuzzi

[FiveGoodMen]

3. At some point, it may no longer be legal to criticize Trump or the GOP

[RussBLib]

8. well, we won't allow that, now will we?

Ignorance goes only so far.

[FiveGoodMen]

10. "Ignorance goes only so far"

I want to believe that...

[Hoyt]

4. This is very different from being a soldier in the 1960s.

I would hope Mueller would stand up if his report is misrepresented, but not so sure he will.

[SHRED]

6. It's about defense of our country isn't it?

That's what he thought back then.

[Hoyt]

11. Not really. Lots of folks back then fought for glory, not really

aware of the purpose. If they were, they would have said, “Only way I’m going to kill innocent Asians is for you to draft my ass.”

I’m not so sure Mueller is the hero we want him to be.

[okaawhatever]

23. I have to wonder if Mueller isn't allowing the system to work, so to speak. He isn't the one who

should be demanding the report's release, Congress and the American people should. He should be willing to testify honestly to anything relating to the investigation or report, but releasing it isn't under his purview. Congress has the power to make him testify and if they can't get the info from Barr that is what they should do. Mueller shouldn't use a power that wasn't given to him, except maybe as a last resort.

[Hoyt]

28. Sometimes, you gotta forget the rule book. This is one of those times.

[Control-Z]

7. I'm feeling the same.

And I don't believe for a minute that he was ready to end his investigation but did so because Barr told him to.

I keep hoping he is just waiting to get a subpoena. Then he can answer questions about Barr and the investigation honestly.

[unblock]

9. he seems more a "do what's proper, by the book" kind of guy.

he doesn't seem at all like the kind of guy to go blaring to the media or anyone outside formal channels if he sees something improper.

he's put quite a lot of info into the indictments already, but that's a well-established, proper, formal place to put his findings.

there's no formal, established procedure for him to wave his hands right now and say anything at all. he was supposed to file a report, he's apparently done that, and that's that.


now, once the house has him testify, that could be very interesting.

[keith sw]

12. I have never lost sight

Of the fact that Mueller is a Republican

[beachbum bob]

14. its not up to Mueller to release any report.

[okaawhatever]

25. This +100 nt

[Magilla]

15. Mueller Report

Senate and Congressional leaders should be privy to unredacted copies of the report. The rest of us should be privy to redacted copies.
Lets not forget this involves Russia and it is more than likely there is some national security involved. Also people do haveva right to privacy.
What I don't want is anything removed because if executive privilege.

[choie]

16. he's a republican

period

[bahrbearian]

18. Yup, its not secret either.

[California_Republic]

19. My view is Mueller is going by the book at this time so as not to endanger his work

[RichardRay]

20. He believes in the process.

He retains a deep belief that our country’s processes work in the long run. They have in the past. Whether they will this time remains to be seen.

[kentuck]

22. Preet Bharara made an intersting point, I thought.

On the Chris Hayes show, he thought Mueller may have thought the decision against the President of the United States was more than he or any one man could assume, and that Mueller may have thought it best to be handed to the Congress of the United States.

That was my interpretation.

[tymorial]

26. Mueller reports to Barr

It is up to Congress to "check" the executive. Mueller must wait for the process to work. I see no evidence whatsoever that he is anything but honorable. I will always vote for Democrats but I will never entertain that a conservative is incapable of honorable behavior even if politically we are opposed.

[njhoneybadger]

27. I'm thinking maybe Mueller did it this way to "Rope a Dope"

[jberryhill]

29. And he disobeyed the chain of command when?

[ehrnst]

30. "Watch?" What can he actually do? The AG has the power to do this. Congress is

working on getting it from the AG.

You seem to think that there is something he can do to release the report but isn't.

[fishwax]

31. as a couple of weeks ago when the summary first came out, we have really no idea about what Mueller

in the midst of all of this. When the Barr "report" on the Mueller report came out, we had people all up in arms about how Mueller had sold us all out, as though Barr's BS told us anything real about the content of the report.

The same is true now. We have no idea what Mueller is doing or what he's positioning towards with respect to his report and the aftermath. We do know, based on his past actions, that he seems to have a deep investment in the process and that he's unlikely to tip his hand or to buck the chain of command. It also seems clear that he's established several contingency plans (like the cases he's delivered to SDNY). He's not likely to fight the Barr narrative in the press, no matter what the situation may be. So I don't think we really know anything about his perspective on this.