Ivanka Trump Crashes And Burns As Americans Show Their Hate

[guillaumeb]

From the article:

Ivanka Trump was thought to be the pleasing and likable public face of the White House, but a new survey shows that the American people don’t like or trust Trump’s daughter.

To read more:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/04/02/ivanka-trump-crashes-and-burns-as-americans-show-their-hate.html

[DontBooVote]

1. Well that's because she is a mobster.

[guillaumeb]

2. A member of the Trump crime family.

Apparently she inherited her brains and her ethics from her father.

[FakeNoose]

3. Ya, know? This should have been written two years ago

These days, she's part of the problem, and she's only making it worse.
Get out of the White House NOW, Ivanka!

[guillaumeb]

6. The truth about the Trump family has been ginored for 50 years.

And we are paying the price.

[Wounded Bear]

4. Maybe if she wasn't so obviously a plasticized caricature of a Barbie doll...

she would feel a bit more "human."

[guillaumeb]

5. And if a personality could be implanted,

and empathy and understanding, she might feel even more human.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Yeah, well, that too...

Maybe they could hack in Data's emotion chip.

[rwsanders]

56. Star Trek: always relevant

The Next Generation = my favorite

[lunatica]

8. She's the personification of fake looks and personality, as is Melania

They pose. All the time. There is not a natural gesture, smile, stance, or word that comes from them.

She’s a Stepford daughter, probably to please her father.

[guillaumeb]

10. Very well said.

And they are so divorced from actual human empathy that they can do anything to anyone with no qualms.

[leftyladyfrommo]

57. I saw a bunch of old Trump pictures.

He was always posing .

[guillaumeb]

64. Posing as a human.

And not doing well at it.

[leftyladyfrommo]

67. It just all looks so phony.

He does the same thing now. And so does the idiot son.

[MineralMan]

9. Ivanka Trump is the Political version of Elizabeth Holmes.

Both are frauds. If you don't know who Elizabeth Holmes is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Holmes

[guillaumeb]

12. Agreed.

I have read about her.

[shanny]

20. ???

how pointlessly rude

[MineralMan]

24. Not pointless at all.

But true, nonetheless. The Dalai Lama would no doubt agree.

“A good friend who points out mistakes and imperfections and rebukes evil is to be respected as if he reveals the secret of some hidden treasure.” ― Dalai Lama

[shanny]

37. actually, I doubt if the Buddha of Compassion

would agree, at all. Namaste.

[mr_lebowski]

41. You're unaware of these two's history ... this is not out of the blue from MM ;) (nt)

[shanny]

42. good friends, are they?

[mr_lebowski]

43. If MM want's to explain I'll leave it to him ... but a perusal of the Religion forum

will fairly quickly give the background ...

It's not a stretch to say that perhaps 15% of posts there ... are the two of them going back and forth.

They uh ... don't agree on much

[marble falls]

51. Its time one of them breaks the chain.

[leftyladyfrommo]

58. Actually Buddhism teaches that your critics are

the best teachers of all. You learn more from them than from anyone. You need to pay close attention to them and if what they say is really true then learn from that and use that to improve.

[SixString]

68. Oops.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

46. He has earned it. I have little respect for him and much respect for MineralMan. . . . nt

[Tess49]

25. Having a bad day? Rude, indeed.

[MineralMan]

26. Nope. I'm having an excellent day. You?

[Tess49]

35. So far, so good. Working in the yard in the Oklahoma wind. Love my gardens.

[MineralMan]

39. It's still too early to plant in the garden here in Minnesota.

Sometime in May, the ground will thaw enough. We have a short growing season.

[Tess49]

44. A little too early to plant here. We've had freezing temperatures as recently as this past Monday.

At this point I am trying to clean out the beds. I won't try to plant anything for about two weeks. Lots of bulbs coming up now, flowering. It's 61 degrees today. The wind makes it feel much colder. We have a loooong growing season. Sometimes have to mow the yard into late October. Which kind of sucks.

[Kurt V.]

30. Yikes. y'all feudin'

[MineralMan]

32. Hmm...

[Kurt V.]

34. on edit: okie dokie

[marble falls]

48. Seriously and uneccesarily rude.

[Tipperary]

15. Lol. Excellent comparison, though it does seem Holmes had no daddy to help.

Somehow she has just come on my radar. No idea how I missed the whole thing. I wish I had HBO to see the story, darn it. I have read everything I can find and it is really amazing...like a train wreck .

[MineralMan]

16. Not exactly:

From the Wikipedia article

Elizabeth Holmes was born in Washington, D.C.[9] Her father, Christian Rasmus Holmes IV, was a vice president at Enron, after which he held executive positions in government agencies such as USAID, the EPA, and USTDA.[10][11][12] Her mother, Noel Anne Daoust, worked as a Congressional committee staffer

She did have an important daddy, who worked for a very crooked company.

[Tipperary]

18. Oh good lord. Enron???

Well, as I said, she only recently came on my radar. Wow, that makes it even more disgusting.

[MineralMan]

22. I've been following her story for years.

It's a fascinating one, and caught my attention very early in her rise to fame, and long before her plunge back to obscurity.

She charmed her way into getting billions in funding for her Blue Sky company. It's a study in the long con game.

The wikipedia article and its links are a very good start.

[Tipperary]

36. Thanks, I have found a bunch of stuff on ABCnews articles with George S.

It IS fascinating. I really cannot get a grip on how she did this. I mean, to me it makes no sense if the tests did not work, right? She seemed to be really good at getting older rich men to invest, sadly.

I have been dealing with a lot of trauma in my life and guess I just somehow missed the story. Trying to catch up on it. Appreciate the advice on links.

[MineralMan]

45. I have not met Ms. Holmes, but it seems she was able

to charm some people into funding her enterprise. I've seen her speak, and she does have an effective presentation mode.

She's a strange person, though, withal. Still she was young, blonde, and not unattractive, so that may have played a role with some of her funders. I suspect, though, that she had some quality that I don't know about that closed the deal. A penetrating gaze or something. There is no hint of any sexual connection, though, so it has to be a personality trait of some kind.

I'm afraid I was rather taken with her for a short time, in an imaginary sort of way, but I soon saw through her ruse. It's rather a remarkable story, and I will be interested to see if she lands on her feet again.

[Saviolo]

59. Are you familiar with Robert Evans's podcast Behind the Bastards?

His two-part episode this week is about Elizabeth Holmes and how much of a grifter she is:

https://www.behindthebastards.com/podcasts/part-one-elizabeth-holmes-the-ceo-who-treated-your-blood-like-a-phone.htm

Part two is due out tomorrow.

[uponit7771]

19. WOW ... could they be the same person !?!?

[MineralMan]

23. No. But, they are similar in their fraudulence.

[essme]

27. Wow-

Just read your link. Thanks for posting that.

[MineralMan]

29. You're welcome. The similarities are striking!

[UpInArms]

50. Scammers learning the art of scamming and grifting

From their fathers ....

Thanks for tying these two boat anchors together

I wish that was more literal than figuratively

[ck4829]

74. Yep

[brooklynite]

11. "Daddy! They're being MEAN to me!!!"

[guillaumeb]

13. Change the 1st Amendment!!!!

[shanny]

17. ...ranked lowest on "funny" (1 percent), "can identify with" (2 percent) and "exciting" (3 percent).

now, THAT's funny. Also: "inauthentic, wooden, and not honest." Amen.

Her name, brand, and family are all putrid. Good luck becoming the first woman president,* sweetie!

*that was the plan, I believe--she and hubby had the agreement that she got to go first, then him. Of course, now Jr. is making noises like he'd like to throw his hat in the ring--after daddy's second term of course. In addition to being ethically challenged and morally compromised, these people are walking exemplars of Dunning-Krueger.

[guillaumeb]

60. The entire family seems to be exemplars.

And their business performance supports your post.

[Kaleva]

21. She and her husband are despised at Free Republic

[Hekate]

33. Now that's interesting. Why, exactly?

Is it because the Mad King plays at being a populist, while those two play at being Crown Princess and Prince Consort?

[shanny]

40. Jewish? Weak? And yes, non-populist.

[mainer]

28. her father's presidency is the worst thing that could happen to her

After he's out of office, she'll be left with no customers, no fan base, and no one who'll want anything to do with the Trump name. Immigrants won't want to work with her, her brand is ruined, and good luck getting invited to any NYC parties.

[Brother Buzz]

53. Ivanka Trump shuttered her vanity clothing business...

and turned her employees out. She has not brand to go back to.

[Hortensis]

31. Dislike, anger, contempt and pity. Not hate.

[C_U_L8R]

38. As phony as her father

And apparently twice as nasty.

[not fooled]

47. Daughter of a gangster

and married a gangster.

What's to like?

People like this SHOULD be despised.

[Freethinker65]

49. About fu$king time!!

Not even Russia convinced people to vote for Trump's kids and in-laws to be given government policy making jobs. They wanted Trump to save them not his vapid family.

The same type of voters went bat shit crazy when Hillary tried to take an active role in the Clinton WH. She was vilified for sticking her nose in trying to solve healthcare. No one voted for her to make major policy decisions, they screamed...and actually they kind of had a point.

Ivanka and Jared have no business taking active roles in the US government. I understand Trump is possibly feeble minded and needs his daughter near him as a trusted family caretaker and confidant, but that should have been kept behind the scenes politically. No one believes she is qualified to do much, and while her husband may have some experience in real estate finance because of family networking, he has absolutely no foreign diplomatic skills. In the past, the US relied on professionals, not unskilled amateurs.

[barbtries]

52. she's a slimey barbie doll

without a clue. a female version of her sociopathic deeply disturbed father. yuck

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

54. I recently read

Kushner, Inc.: Greed. Ambition. Corruption. The Extraordinary Story of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump by Vicky Ward.

Both Jared and Ivanka are truly awful people and both of them are completely out of touch with what most of us think of as the real world.

It's actually quite interesting.

[guillaumeb]

61. And the US corporate media apparently missed all of this?

How fortunate for Trump.

[lindysalsagal]

65. Thanks for wading into the cesspool for the rest of us.

I don't want that information in my brain where I can't dislodge it. So, you're braver than I am.

[MartyTheGreek]

55. They Wanted a Trump Dynasty but We won that Battle a Couple Hundred Years ago!

Sorry, Princess Ivanka!

[yellowcanine]

62. If she is disliked, what about Uday and Qusay?

They must be loathed.

[guillaumeb]

63. Perhaps she receives more coverage?

All of them have inherited their father's intelligence and empathy.

[riversedge]

66. It is her phoniness that I dislike.

[guillaumeb]

70. Her phoniness is her most authentic behavior.

Consider that.

[ck4829]

75. Indeed

[Takket]

69. wow...

it is almost as if being an insincere, stuck up, out of touch, phony, unqualified snob carries a negative connotation these days.

[guillaumeb]

72. Who could have imagined?

But considering that her name is Trump, it might have been expected.

[geretogo]

71. She is a replica of one of the Stepford wives .

[guillaumeb]

77. Without the functional brain upgrade?

She truly is her father's daughter.

[ck4829]

73. K&R

[Aristus]

76. I think it was just hearing a beneficiary of inherited wealth lecturing the American people

on the importance of earning a living.

[guillaumeb]

78. Like her father,

she has no idea what work is.