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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMueller was supposed to be a "GENIUS" building in all kinds of fail-safe options into his report...
..so that it was GUARANTEED to be untouchable by the tRump criminal cabal, and quickly become public.
And yet, here we sit, twiddling our collective thumbs and getting ulcers while Butterball Barr either outwits him at every turn, OR...Mueller knew exactly what he was doing, and remains a card-carrying rock-ribbed Republican con man.
Remember how excited everyone got every time there was a post about the unbelievably TIGHT LID Mueller had clamped down on his investigation??
Don't you wish SOMEBODY had done the right thing and been a leaker?
Barrel Belly Barr can easily keep this thing hidden til after 2020 elections, stall and obfuscate forever, then throw it into the courts, with endless time wasting objections, memorandums, re-scheduling, then appeal to a higher court if needed....
FRUSTRATION!
(hope you don't mind my nicknames for Barr, I'm going to start making up names for all of tRump's minions just like he does...starting with "The Orange Anal Wart" for tRump himself)
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)undreamed of by mere mortals.
Botany
(70,522 posts)"Mueller knew exactly what he was doing, and remains a card-carrying rock-ribbed Republican con man."
Troll Much?
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)dem4decades
(11,297 posts)I actually believed it, what an idiot.
ismnotwasm
(41,992 posts)And ignored clear warning of doing so. This article for instance:
Expectations that the special counsel will deliver a long narrative of Donald Trumps malfeasance are likely to be disappointed.
But theres a more fundamental question surrounding the report than when the document will land, which is whether it will even existor rather, whether it will exist in a form worth the anxious wait. Whether through wishful thinking about a report that could put the final nail in Donald Trumps political coffin or expectations created by the famous (or infamous) Starr Report in 1998, the unspoken assumption has been that Mueller will produce a lengthy summary of his probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election, but legal experts and veterans of previous investigations disagree.
I believe that many, including many in the press, have done the country a disservice by creating the impression that when he gets done, Mueller is going to write this scathing, lengthy report detailing what an asshole the president is, even if hes not a criminal, says Paul Rosenzweig, a senior fellow at the R Street Institute think tank who was a senior counsel on the Whitewater investigation. If my thesis about Mueller is right, then thats just not happening.
John Q. Barrett, a law professor at St. Johns University who served as an associate counsel on the Iran-Contra investigation, agrees. They are not going to get a narrative, multi-hundred-page, factually organized, appended-documents road map from Mueller, Barrett says. Mueller might send a five-page memo to [Attorney General William] Barr, saying, I got a guilty plea from these people, and I didnt charge these ones.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/what-will-mueller-report-show/584650/
And we STILL have not, you know, actually seen the report, so..
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)people will wait to see the Mueller report before they start whining?
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)How many times do you think donnie will be able to hear that he's a coward and "what is he hiding?" before he caves? And best wishes for speedy recoveries from your surgeries.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)We all knew how he loved the spotlight and playing the villain.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)back then. You must also know that he will NEVER allow himself to be called a coward. It's the worst thing you can say about him. That's not playing the villain, that's the way to fight him - kick him right in the supposedly alpha nuts.
manor321
(3,344 posts)We can't really judge until we see the report. We know it "does not exonerate" him from obstruction. And the reasons for no indictment might be, "DOJ doesn't allow it, so it goes to Congress".
onenote
(42,715 posts)And exactly what were those options supposed to be?
There was a lot of believing what people wanted to believe surrounding the Mueller investigation. It sounds like you may have succumbed to that way of thinking.
rusty fender
(3,428 posts)believed some myth about Muellers skills and power. And we were subject to assurance after assurance that Mueller has got this.
Sure, we were gullible, but we were bombarded by special counsel propaganda by our own people.
tableturner
(1,683 posts)Edited to add periods.
angrychair
(8,702 posts)By a bunch of conmen.
Did we all take stupid pills? How could anyone think that a republican written law, being investigated by Republicans and given to the very Republican administration being investigated, would turn out any other way?
leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)Under absolutely awful circumstances.
We really need to see the report before we judge him.
madville
(7,412 posts)Mueller and Barr are working together on the redacted version, so he still has input. Federal law actually dictates how grand jury testimony can it cannot be publicly released so they have to work within those parameters as well.