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Girard442

(6,081 posts)
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 11:34 AM Apr 2019

Could somebody explain something re: Trump's "oranges" appearance?

In this Vox article:

During an Oval Office event with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg on Tuesday afternoon, President Donald Trump either lied or got confused about where his father was born, admitted that closing the border with Mexico will be economically harmful to the US (but threatened to do it anyway), pushed a baseless conspiracy theory, and repeatedly struggled to say the word “origins.”


https://www.vox.com/2019/4/2/18292571/trump-nato-secretary-white-house-oranges

It ends with the sentence:

Reporters were then ushered out of the room.


Is this the normal protocol when the POTUS makes a press appearance with a guest? Or, am I just being weird when I picture staff shoving the press out before they can see any more of Donnie having one of his "spells"?
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Could somebody explain something re: Trump's "oranges" appearance? (Original Post) Girard442 Apr 2019 OP
Who knows what goes on in that zoo? The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #1
Maybe a C-SPAN junkie could shed some light. Girard442 Apr 2019 #2
reporters have been shoved out of the room many times. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2019 #19
This statement by him shanti Apr 2019 #3
Mini stroke? nt NCjack Apr 2019 #5
Watched a U tube of that Presser Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #9
I hope, like everything he does, he doubles down, and lagomorph777 Apr 2019 #16
Notice how the Media today Wellstone ruled Apr 2019 #17
Treason and evil are Trump's new favorite words. nt leftyladyfrommo Apr 2019 #10
There is no "normal" protocol with this administration. tinrobot Apr 2019 #4
Trump's use of English is at 5th grade level dem in texas Apr 2019 #6
Fifth grade level? Are you kidding me? Dave Starsky Apr 2019 #15
I don't know about "normal," but that sentence indicates MineralMan Apr 2019 #7
Remember a few days ago his staff was saying Trump was "tired"? Wonder if he's having sundowners? Hekate Apr 2019 #11
I think that Trump has sundowners, and nooners, too. MineralMan Apr 2019 #13
Yes. So many people in the GOP knew he was not normal going in, some even knew he was a monster... Hekate Apr 2019 #18
Eh...they always do that. Totally Tunsie Apr 2019 #8
I've seen that too, and it is grossly unprofessional. But Trump's slippages are getting worse. nt Hekate Apr 2019 #12
Severe loss of executive function, in more ways than one. librechik Apr 2019 #14

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,749 posts)
1. Who knows what goes on in that zoo?
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 11:37 AM
Apr 2019

Maybe the allotted time was up, or maybe the staff did perceive that Spanky had started to go off the rails a bit and maybe it was time to hustle the press out before he shat on the rug.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. reporters have been shoved out of the room many times.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 09:07 PM
Apr 2019

There vids of some of his meetings that press have attended, usually Oval office and dignitary meetings, where suddenly you hear his staff, including Conway and sarah, barking loudly.."That's all, come on, time to go " and hustling the reporters out.

None of that calm polite exit we got used to with President Obama.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
3. This statement by him
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 11:39 AM
Apr 2019

"...Eventually, Trump was able to say that “people did things that were very, very bad for our country, and very, very illegal. And you could even say treasonous.” Reporters were then ushered out of the room."

Projection perhaps?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Watched a U tube of that Presser
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:14 PM
Apr 2019

couple times last night . His Face became beet Red and he kind of lurched and the Gentleman sitting next to him,seems to sense something was wrong,and he twitches a bit. Then Trump's expression changes to almost a total blank like a mini stroke.

Or was it a reaction from his last hit of Speed?




lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
16. I hope, like everything he does, he doubles down, and
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 02:41 PM
Apr 2019

next time he has a big, magnificent, beautiful stroke.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
17. Notice how the Media today
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 03:11 PM
Apr 2019

jokes about the "orange" part only and not what really happened.

Loved to have been the fly on the wall at the NBC production meetings.

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
6. Trump's use of English is at 5th grade level
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:00 PM
Apr 2019

He only uses only simple words and phrases when speaks. If you watch any re-runs of him from the 1990's, he is using more complex words and complex sentences.

Is this a sign of mental decline, just like getting oranges and origin mixed up, over and over. Plus the blank look on his face after the third try.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
15. Fifth grade level? Are you kidding me?
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 02:37 PM
Apr 2019

I've known first graders with larger vocabularies, who made better sense when they talked.

My aunt taught the fifth grade. I assure you that any of her kids communicated at the level of Rhodes Scholars compared to Trump.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
7. I don't know about "normal," but that sentence indicates
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:04 PM
Apr 2019

something not quite usual about how the session ended. As usual, Trump went off-topic in a presser with some foreign dignitary and started yammering about his pet topics. The oranges/origins thing and the word salad about his father, though, might be the reason the reporters were "ushered out of the room." He was wandering a bit too far into mindless speech.

The Vox reporter mentioned being ushered out intentionally to call attention to it, so it must have been unexpected.

Hekate

(90,719 posts)
11. Remember a few days ago his staff was saying Trump was "tired"? Wonder if he's having sundowners?
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 01:07 PM
Apr 2019

Damn the GOP and their lust to change the entire Judiciary. Graham and McConnell will put up with anything if they can seize the SCOTUS and have a pipeline of younger federal judges.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
13. I think that Trump has sundowners, and nooners, too.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 01:30 PM
Apr 2019

I think he is off-track most of the time, now. I don't think he should be in the position he holds. I think he is functionally and intellectually unfit for the job. I think it is time for him to leave that job and seek appropriate care for his medical condition.

That's what I think.

Right now, I'm dealing, long-distance, with an aging parent who is deep into Alzheimer's and another parent who cannot cope and who may be having problems, too. Previously, I helped my wife deal with her mother who suffered from that cruel disorder. I recognize it very easily now, by its characteristic effects on the mind.

It's time for Trump to go. Past time.

Hekate

(90,719 posts)
18. Yes. So many people in the GOP knew he was not normal going in, some even knew he was a monster...
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 03:16 PM
Apr 2019

But they believed they could control the monster, even that he would "grow into" the office. The ones he hired in the beginning are all gone, every one of them disgraced. His family remains -- they are his core enablers. As for the others who enable him, like the GOP Senators, they know very well what he is by now.

As far as I can tell, Trump has spent his entire life getting what he wanted by force of personality -- bullying, intimidation, fear, even physical attacks. We are witnessing the lights inside his mind flickering and sparking out, while his essential personality remains intact. And still his family and others enable him, because they are at once afraid of him and perceive there is something to gain for themselves. What a sick, sick, family. What a sick, sick, Party.

As to your personal point: Yes, Alzheimer's is very cruel. I fear it. I am so sorry about your folks.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
8. Eh...they always do that.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 12:06 PM
Apr 2019

Whenever there's a televised report of one of his Oval Office meet-ups where the reporters can ask questions, there's always a few moments of cater-walling when it's over and done. There is one particularly sharp-voiced young lady who screams "OK, we're done. Everyone out. Let's go." (or similar) to empty the room. It's long aggravated me, and I've commented on it often.

Nothing new.

librechik

(30,674 posts)
14. Severe loss of executive function, in more ways than one.
Wed Apr 3, 2019, 01:52 PM
Apr 2019

Trump reminds me of my mom a few months before she went to the nursing home.

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