Repression of natural, genuine, and casual expressions of affection.
What do you suppose happens to a person after a lifetime of societally enforced repression of natural emotional impulses? It's pretty ugly. And yet there are some that would make it The Rule. I saw someone say, "We must forbid unsolicited affection." Right. When have they ever "solicited affection"? And how do they figure they had the right to do that while forbidding that right to me?
Just how warped do you want males to become? Isn't it bad enough?
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It really isn't that hard to understand. I am not sure why so many people are confused about this.
bear any responsibility for their own actions! Do not forget it!
Ladies! If a man wants to touch you in a way you find unacceptable LET HIM ANYWAY! DO NOT STOP HIM! Or those males will become warped! AND IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT!
PS: The Incel group is three doors down.
The responses to this post seem really amazing -- and not in a good way.
I get that there are people that have been hurt. Hell, I've been hurt. I'd like to have the phrase "I hope we can still be friends" struck from the English language, and the use of it subject to a heavy fine, but that's just irrational. The response to being hurt isn't making the potential to be hurt illegal. That also takes away the chance of being unexpectedly pleased.
If it were taboo to touch without a signed disclaimer, I wouldn't exist. A lot of you wouldn't exist. Our parents would have thought too much about it, and just gone home and pleasured themselves at their parent's house.
It's like... the assholes in the movie "Animal House" have taken over the whole country 41 years on.
And another thing... If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear remember some flowers in your hair -- at least while you can. It's sure to soon be illegal and those advocating it made to seem somehow immoral.
Yet another thing... Have any of you even watched "Woodstock" or "Hair?"
Yet another nother thing... I think I'm finally good with the idea of being dead. At least there's that. Thank you millennials! 
[Head shaking as he hits "post reply"].
>>The response to being hurt isn't making the potential to be hurt illegal.
>No one...is saying that?
You're saying it should be punishable, right? Now you're splitting hairs.
>Doubtful. No one is calling for signed disclaimers, either. What is so hard to understand about respect?
I'm full of respect. I have daughters and grand daughters that I don't want to ever see touched in a bad way. I DO, however, want know they have the pleasure of being touched in a good way -- maybe sometimes without premeditation on their part. That's a HUGE part of being human, and getting out of living solely between the ears.
What is so hard to understand about nonverbal communication and spontaneity? Only a tiny percentage of people would fail to perceive that a touch was unwelcome and then relent. To codify something to take care of that small percentage seems untenable. It's prior restraint, plain and simple.
If you want to create a system where anybody that doesn't want to be touched wears a blue button, or an identifiable hat or t-shirt of some kind. I'd say that's a good idea. I suggest you promote that.
But to suggest that any touching that isn't orally (hesitate to use that word here) pre-approved is unacceptable is just taking things too far.
>Are the assholes the ones who think they can touch other people without consent?
Well, watch the movie and you'll know what I mean.
>>And another thing... If you're going to San Francisco, be sure to wear remember some flowers in your hair -- at least while you
>>can. It's sure to soon be illegal and those advocating it made to seem somehow immoral.
>Your hyperbole is ridiculous.
LOL
>>Yet another nother thing... I think I'm finally good with the idea of being dead. At least there's that. Thank you millennials!
>Goodness, now who's uptight?
Reading you just makes me feel sad. You make me think of something an old teacher of mine, Carlos Castaneda, said. He was something else. I thought it was bullshit at the time, but maybe there's something to it.
Castaneda (Anthropology professor and fake(?) Shaman) used to say the world is full of people that were products of a bored conception -- made without passion because the sex they came from was scheduled around bowling, or PTA, The Bachelor, or something. He said that the passion was gone from them and so they found passion threatening.
The inverse corollary of that would be that non bored-f@#K people don't find passion threatening. We should try to be that.
I'd be more like your dad's age - not your grandpa. 
A lot of bad shit has happened and continues to happen. I don't have any qualms with working toward a world where bad shit happens less to people or not at all. I'm a Democrat for a reason. That said, a punishment should fit the crime. A solution should fit the problem. What's happening now isn't that. It's a pendulum swing.
I don't think the people leading this have thought it through. That's my main beef with it.
You're right. Context is everything. Younger people in particular, though, seem to be looking for perverse intent in benign acts -- dragging them into contexts where they don't belong.
I'm getting up there in years. Like a lot of older men, I carry a lot of junk in my pockets. My key ring has a lot of keys. I also pay with cash and spend my change.
I was paying for gas and soda a few weeks ago, and was trying to draw out my change past my keys. The girl behind the counter yelled out "Oh my God. He's playing with himself!" A male clerk, or asst manager or something came out. I said I was just getting out my change. He told me to pay up and leave. I'd been buying gas there for 15 years at least. I walked out to the car completely dumbfounded.
I did nothing wrong. Now I always walk up to the counter with my wallet out and my change already in my hand.
Last year, I was at the Home Depot to buy a pressure tank for my well water pump. They came out with a high rise fork lift to get it off of a high shelf. The one they started to take down had a big crumpled corner on the outer box. The one next to it was nicer. So, I said "I'd like the one next to that, please. It looks unmolested." The clerk, a 20 something girl, said "Unmolested? Exactly what do you mean by that?" I explained that the box on that one wasn't damaged. That's all.
She stomped off, leaving me standing there with an uncomfortable forklift operator. Then a burly male manager took her place with a walkie-talkie in his hand, giving me a look like he was ready to call security at any second. At least I got my tank without getting arrested for using my vocabulary.
I guess I should be "tank-ful" for that.
Something in the world has changed. I'm an old guy now -- not a primary suspect in anybody's book, yet these things are happening to me. I can't help but wonder how bad it is for younger men. They all must be on guard now to not to have their intentions misperceived constantly.
I'm scared for my grandson. He's just ten. What the hell is he going to be facing out there?
We call them “ Polly Puritans,” in my part of the country. I had no idea Democrats were so uptight and easly offended.
Yet many back Bernie, the old Commune Living Hippy himself who was thrown out for being lazy and sexual harrrassment!
If that's the only thing that can stop them from grabbing and kissing people they barely know.
who can teach them how to respect boundaries, though they may lose a finger or two in the process. 
Feisty little bastard.
I really need some emotional support after reading so many uptight posts.
Here I thought Democrats were warm, understanding people.
This sums up the whole damned thing in one clear sentence. 
Anybody who can’t figure it out or feel that this simple demand for respect somehow imposes on their freedom or emotional well-being can take a flying leap.
