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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 10:55 AM Apr 2019

Can anyone explain this Brexit Hypocrisy to me?

I will admit that I have only a cursory understanding of the Brexit chaos engulfing Great Briton. But this hypocrisy on the matter has really stuck out to me.

How is it that PM May will not allow a second vote by the people on Brexit after the first vote was for the exit of the UK from the EU, but she wants a fourth vote in Parliament for her plan to exit, after the first 3 failed.

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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
1. That is pretty much the labour and snp argument
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:00 AM
Apr 2019

MPs are perfectly allowed and recommended to change their minds but not the British people.

malaise

(269,045 posts)
2. Great post
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:01 AM
Apr 2019

Never forget May was Cameron's Home Secretary and she tried to deport Windrush immigrants - Caribbean people they begged to help rebuild England after the British and other Western powers killed off their sons.

May is anti-immigrant and racist to the core. Remember that massive fire that killed those immigrants and how she treated them the way the Con treats the people of Puerto Rico.

You asked a great question. Theresa May is a racist fake who clawed her way to power by trying to by a Dianna look alike.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
6. We mustn't forget May's time as Home Secretary.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:10 AM
Apr 2019

It was a moral disaster and a clear sign she had no business as PM.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
9. Although I'm also going to admit there really weren't many alternatives.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:18 AM
Apr 2019

Gove, Rees-Mogg, Johnson, pick a name, they're all utterly unsuited for any position of authority. Any Tory with a conscience is facing recall, so we probably ought to admit that the entire party is just a moral disaster.

Corbyn's horrible waffling and antisemitism is, of course, its own problem.

I wish I were optimistic that it would end well.

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
18. yes, how sad and unfair that they would be stopped from royally screwing up their own nation
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:04 PM
Apr 2019

the heart bleeds

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
5. That's not even the worst hypocrisy in Brexit.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:08 AM
Apr 2019

The DUP are insisting on complete regulatory alignment with the UK because they don't want to be different in any way from Scotland, England, and Wales.

Except for abortion and gay marriage. Those they have to be different on.

brooklynite

(94,591 posts)
8. At this point a Parliament vote is a necessity...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:18 AM
Apr 2019

If NO action is taken, UK WILL exit the EU next Friday with no deal in place causing economic and travel chaos. Whatever you think of the merits of a new referendum, it can't be implemented in that time frame.

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
12. I'm actually coming around to a no-deal Brexit.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:26 AM
Apr 2019

Considering how many Brexidiots still haven't figured out how reality works, I'm afraid that in order to successfully drive a stake through the heart of Brexit we're going to have to drive a stake through the heart of the economy. Nothing less will satisfy them, and they're still basically half the country. It's horrifying. But I'm really beginning to doubt that Brexit can be stopped, so I'm thinking that the uglier it is the faster we'll rejoin the EU. Of course, we'll never get the banks back, or the special deals we threw away with this stupidity, but it seems like pain we are determined to inflict on ourselves.

Admittedly, it's easy for me to say. I'll still be an EU citizen regardless. But the proverbial clue-by-four is going to have to beat a lot of people somehow.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
17. History suggests that it's the armies we're not in that pose the greatest threat.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:53 PM
Apr 2019

Hah! Who can argue with that?

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
14. The 2016 referendum was a choice between "Remain" and "Leave" without specifying what that meant
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 11:38 AM
Apr 2019

Even worse, Scotland and Northern Ireland both voted to remain, England and Wales voted to leave.

There was no mechanism in place or thought put in to what to do if the union itself was split either.

so the mess as it stands today hasn't changed, a not very united kingdom at all

ProfessorPlum

(11,257 posts)
16. Right - how dumb was it to set it up as anything other than a public opinion poll on the subject
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

seeing as how no one knew what any of the terms or consequences were going to be (except that the Brexiteers saying it would be wonderful)

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