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applegrove

(118,793 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:55 PM Mar 2019

Mueller Report Will Be Released Within Weeks

Mueller Report Will Be Released Within Weeks

March 26, 2019 at 5:25 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 30 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/03/26/mueller-report-will-be-released-within-weeks/

"SNIP....

A Justice Department official told the Wall Street Journal that it “will take weeks, not months,” to review special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on his Russia investigation and “produce a version for release to Congress and the public.”

....SNIP"

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Mueller Report Will Be Released Within Weeks (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2019 OP
I thought he summarized it in less than a day. Hugin Mar 2019 #1
The hold-up is the time they use to paint whatever THEY want it to say, and reduce Chin music Mar 2019 #6
Redacting grand jury material Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #8
I don't buy it. Hugin Mar 2019 #12
Nevertheless, grand jury material cannot be released. Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #14
The Republican report "Mueller Report" Have ongoing cases but trump is seeing that info rockfordfile Mar 2019 #19
That report was withdrawn. Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #21
What, exactly, is "Grand jury material"? rgbecker Mar 2019 #29
The evidence they saw. Qutzupalotl Mar 2019 #32
Not quite FBaggins Mar 2019 #33
Lawrence had the former Chief Counsel to the Senate Intelligence Committee COLGATE4 Mar 2019 #34
I didn't see that, but I saw him interview one of the Watergate prosecutors FBaggins Mar 2019 #36
Since when have the Trumplodytes given a whit about such things? Hugin Mar 2019 #30
Sounds like stuff just about anyone here could find and redact KPN Mar 2019 #28
which tells us that bob barr cherry picked and had zero time to read it spanone Mar 2019 #2
It needs to be released now. manor321 Mar 2019 #3
How long before Congress gets one that is readable? PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #4
"produce a version" Flaleftist Mar 2019 #5
It takes time to chop it up and paste the words in the order you want... Hugin Mar 2019 #7
I saw that too. Chin music Mar 2019 #10
He's going to write a summary of the Mueller report, and send that instead. .99center Mar 2019 #35
As they are busily rewriting it. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #9
and "produce a version for release to Congress and the public." keithbvadu2 Mar 2019 #11
The country is trying to be run like a damn dictatorship. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #15
Mueller's executive summary should be released ASAP. itsrobert Mar 2019 #13
There is so much damn BS going on... RKP5637 Mar 2019 #16
Note the "produce a version for release" qualifier. Bleacher Creature Mar 2019 #17
A truckload of black magic markers just pulled up to the Whitehouse lame54 Mar 2019 #18
DOJ: "Weeks not months" to release Mueller report Baclava Mar 2019 #20
"weeks, not months" Takket Mar 2019 #22
We will hand this copy to Mueller to refill in the blanks bluestarone Mar 2019 #23
To my mind, not much friggin' chance the Report is released ... mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #24
Redacting Aussie105 Mar 2019 #25
it will be like the taxes JI7 Mar 2019 #26
Here's hoping Mueller's original will be preserved. madamesilverspurs Mar 2019 #27
Why doesn't Congress get the same report Barr got ? kacekwl Mar 2019 #31
That is my question Meowmee Mar 2019 #37
Actually, no. Congress doesn't get security clearances FBaggins Mar 2019 #39
Here's what you're going to see... TexasBlueDog Mar 2019 #38

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
6. The hold-up is the time they use to paint whatever THEY want it to say, and reduce
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:59 PM
Mar 2019

expectations. The old 'something will happen in a few weeks." gambit has been a real winner, for those to begin the process of indefinite delay.

rgbecker

(4,834 posts)
29. What, exactly, is "Grand jury material"?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:28 PM
Mar 2019

Could you give an example....names of Jurists? Dates when they met? How they voted?

I don't get it.

Qutzupalotl

(14,331 posts)
32. The evidence they saw.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:00 PM
Mar 2019

The only thing a grand jury can issue is indictments. Everything else is secret.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
33. Not quite
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 09:06 PM
Mar 2019

It's essentially things that were created as part of the GJ process (witness testimony, deliberations, etc.) - Things that the prosecutor could otherwise release (e.g., that were produced in the investigation) don't become secret just because they were shown to the grand jury.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
34. Lawrence had the former Chief Counsel to the Senate Intelligence Committee
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 11:52 PM
Mar 2019

on who explained that a Court can easily be petitioned to release the pertinent Grand Jury testimony. According to him it's no big deal and can be done quite readily.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
36. I didn't see that, but I saw him interview one of the Watergate prosecutors
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:11 AM
Mar 2019

She oversold the possibility. It isn't impossible, but it's certainly not "no big deal and can be done quite readily"

The Watergate prosecutor (Wine-Banks) likely remembers that they won a district court ruling on the subject against Nixon, but that never went higher up the food chain.

There's actually a circuit split on the issue (implying that it would go all the way to SCOTUS). The 11th circuit just ruled favorably on the issue last month, but their ruling was based on the long period of time between the jury proceedings and the request for release. The 8th circuit ruled the other way about a decade ago (ironically in a case dealing with the Starr report). There was an indication from the Supreme Court in '96 going in the other direction (against release), but it was dicta.

The long and short of it is that it wouldn't be at all "no big deal". There's a question re: whether Congress can go to court at this point because the current regulations don't give them a right to the report in the first place (just Barr's letter). So they wait for whatever Mueller/Barr produce and then challenge it. It appears likely that it would go all the way to SCOTUS before we could win - which would mean months, not weeks.

Frankly, I don't think we need it at this point. My first priority would be to determine "Does Barr's summary actually reflect Mueller's determinations?" That can't be hidden by redaction. I want that question answered as quickly as possible. We can start the longer process at that point if needed.

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
30. Since when have the Trumplodytes given a whit about such things?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:29 PM
Mar 2019

The more birds they can kill with this so-called report, the happier they are.

KPN

(15,661 posts)
28. Sounds like stuff just about anyone here could find and redact
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:21 PM
Mar 2019

in pretty short order, not frigging weeks. This is a giant stall to let their messaging take deep root.

spanone

(135,882 posts)
2. which tells us that bob barr cherry picked and had zero time to read it
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:57 PM
Mar 2019

and made his 'no obstruction' call on minimal information...the fix was in with barr

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
4. How long before Congress gets one that is readable?
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 05:58 PM
Mar 2019

Remember that one Rachel showed us with the 8 pages of redactions?

Hugin

(33,207 posts)
7. It takes time to chop it up and paste the words in the order you want...
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:00 PM
Mar 2019

Like an old timey ransom note.

These guys are walking cliches.

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
10. I saw that too.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:01 PM
Mar 2019

Let's cut to the chase and go with the truth. barrs making some big money, and important friends for all those new grandkid attorneys. Clap-clap..."Jobs all around"

keithbvadu2

(36,923 posts)
11. and "produce a version for release to Congress and the public."
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:03 PM
Mar 2019

and “produce a version for release to Congress and the public.”

It has to be 'corrected'.

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
13. Mueller's executive summary should be released ASAP.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:06 PM
Mar 2019

No reason not to since the report vindicates Trump.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
20. DOJ: "Weeks not months" to release Mueller report
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:33 PM
Mar 2019

So u got time, about 1 month 29 days to get ready for its heavily redacted release

Takket

(21,632 posts)
22. "weeks, not months"
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:12 PM
Mar 2019

good phrasing there. the report should be released NOW, but the way they phrased it they make it SOUND like they are "hurrying along". Anything compromising is being edited out and the final report will basically just be the Barr letter with a few more words.

by the time a few weeks go by of rethugs attacking defenseless dems on EVERY front, I wonder if the public will even care by the time it is "released".

bluestarone

(17,051 posts)
23. We will hand this copy to Mueller to refill in the blanks
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:16 PM
Mar 2019

Then file charges of OBSTRUCTION against BARR!!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
24. To my mind, not much friggin' chance the Report is released ...
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:20 PM
Mar 2019

I'm about 95% sure Trump is going to demand a new Special Counsel (Starr, anyone?) to investigate Comey/McCabe/Strzok/Page/Fusion/Steel/McCain and every Democrat and Dem-Appointed Judge who approved surveillance ... he can possibly justify.

AND he'll say 'until we find out whether this report was fruit of a poisoned tree, and illegal in the first place, nobody may see it outside (who I want)'.

Now, he may lose in court, but he might not. Depends on the Judge most likely.

He'll angle to make us Dems complain until Oct 2020, then finally release a highly-redacted version that makes us look dumb for having tried to pin this on him for his entire first term.

And his OSC will come out with a report saying Obama & the Nasty Dems colluded with one another take down Trump by starting an illegal investigation against him.

Aussie105

(5,436 posts)
25. Redacting
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:57 PM
Mar 2019

a few lines concerning national security and currently happening court cases is just a matter of editing.

Takes no time at all.

madamesilverspurs

(15,809 posts)
27. Here's hoping Mueller's original will be preserved.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 08:06 PM
Mar 2019

We'd be foolish to believe that nothing would be lost "in translation".

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Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
37. That is my question
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:33 AM
Mar 2019

And there is no way it should take weeks much less months to take out any classified info.

FBaggins

(26,760 posts)
39. Actually, no. Congress doesn't get security clearances
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 10:19 AM
Mar 2019

They are privy to much that would otherwise be classified just on the basis of their election to the seat. Security classification is inherently an executive branch thing. Of course they need some information to do their job and the executive branch normally shares the information under ongoing agreements between the two branches.

As for your first question. The straightforward answer is that the governing regulations don't require it. They require a confidential report to the AG alone and require the AG to make a report to Congress on decisions whether or not to prosecute and whether or not the AG overruled the SC on any decisions.

Of course, Congress has the power to perform their own investigation, so it makes sense that the DOJ should turn over relevant evidence to them. Plus there's the public pressure.

TexasBlueDog

(43 posts)
38. Here's what you're going to see...
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 09:49 AM
Mar 2019

A report with all personal information redacted. Information about individuals who were not charged may not be released. The thinking behind that is to keep people who are innocent under the law from having personal information harmfully disseminated.

The very things we must see will be blocked. We have to act on this now (congress? lawsuits?) or just be shocked and surprised when a mostly blacked out report is issued.

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