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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,221 posts)
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:22 AM Mar 2019

Remembering when bankers tried to overthrow FDR and install a fascist dictator

Though we know today that his policies eventually ended the Great Depression, FDR's election was seen as disastrous by some.

A group of wealthy bankers decided to take things into their own hands; they plotted a coup against FDR, hoping to install a fascist dictator in its stead.

Ultimately, the coup was brought to light by General Smedley Butler and squashed before it could get off the ground.

When we look back at history, we have the benefit of knowing how things turned out — not true for those who were living through history's tensest moments. At key inflection points in history and in response to crises, most of the actors had no idea what would happen or what the right thing to do was. Sometimes, this uncertainty can drive people to bold and ill-advised actions.

Take the Great Depression. Something had to be done, but nobody knew what for certain. When Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected on a campaign that promised to abandon the gold standard and provide government jobs for the unemployed, many in the grips of the crisis thought that this was certainly the wrong way to go.

"This is despotism, this is tyranny, this is the annihilation of liberty," wrote Republican Senator Henry D. Hatfield of West Virginia to a colleague. "The ordinary American is thus reduced to the status of a robot. The president has not merely signed the death warrant of democracy but has ordained the mutilation of the Constitution, unless the friends of liberty, regardless of party, band themselves together to regain their lost freedom."

Again, it was clear during the time that something drastic had to be done. However, it was not clear, for many, that FDR's plan of action was the right kind of drastic.

The allure of fascism

Fascism had reared its head in Europe, and the world had yet to make up its mind what it thought about it — that would come later, in World War II. Many thought that the best way to pull America out of the Great Depression was to install a dictator — even the New York Herald-Tribune ran a headline called "For Dictatorship If Necessary." Although the newspaper's article was in support of FDR, a group of wealthy financiers believed that America should indeed have a dictator, just not in the form of FDR, who was suspected of being a communist. So, they began to plot a coup d'état that would later come to be known as the Business Plot, or the Wall Street Putsch.

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Remembering when bankers tried to overthrow FDR and install a fascist dictator (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
Read PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #1
That is a good one. murielm99 Mar 2019 #4
Yes. I read constantly. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #5
Prescott Bush was one of the people trying to overthrow Roosevelt Poiuyt Mar 2019 #2
The problem is Butler is the only source for any of this Recursion Mar 2019 #6
Wow not fooled Mar 2019 #3
The Difference Between Then And Now colsohlibgal Mar 2019 #7
K&R ck4829 Mar 2019 #8

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
1. Read
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 12:28 AM
Mar 2019
It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis. That will give you strong insight into what it was like back then.

People tend to look back on the 1930s as a relatively benign time, when FDR got elected and lots of things changed. In reality, there was a LOT of turmoil and agitation. There were labor strikes that were violently put down. There was enormous opposition to Social Security. There were a lot of people who looked upon FDR as a traitor to his class and his country.

Change never comes about easily.

murielm99

(30,765 posts)
4. That is a good one.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:10 AM
Mar 2019

I reread it when Dubya stole the election in 2000. I found that my copy was so yellow and brittle that I went to the library for a copy. It was in the attic, and they let me go up there and dig around for it. (I still have a few friends and colleagues there who have not yet retired).

They now have a copy downstairs. I don't think I was the only one looking for that title.

You like to read. That is great.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,902 posts)
5. Yes. I read constantly.
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:35 AM
Mar 2019

About ten books a month. Right now I'm reading Kushner, Inc. by Vicky Ward. It's amazing. I recommend it to all.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. The problem is Butler is the only source for any of this
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 03:39 AM
Mar 2019

That's the main reason historians haven't been eager to put that in history textbooks. And, I mean, I love Smedley Butler, but it's also possible Prescott was just screwing with him.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
3. Wow
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 02:26 AM
Mar 2019

the pukes back then were just a few decades ahead of their time. Surely they would be applauding where we are now, with an installed fascist president.


colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
7. The Difference Between Then And Now
Tue Mar 26, 2019, 06:35 AM
Mar 2019

They didn’t have Fox News and the saturation of right wing radio back then.

Our democracy is in peril and we’re not the only country facing a fascism threat.

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