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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:25 PM Aug 2012

anyone here decided to NOT have biological children?

Question assumes you are otherwise capable of having children but have made a conscious decision to not have them.
Said decision can include any permanent birth control measures you have taken because of this decision.


Disclosure: My 2 sons have., since an early age, decided to not have kids, and in the intervening 20 years, nothing is changing their mind. I respect their decision, just wondering how common the feeling is.

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anyone here decided to NOT have biological children? (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 OP
You might enjoy this Horse with no Name Aug 2012 #1
I did when I married. TexasProgresive Aug 2012 #2
I think that's wonderful. They're luck to have you as their Dad. cali Aug 2012 #18
I've been in a long-term relationship with my gf... Alduin Aug 2012 #3
i have never wanted kids & i doubt my bf of 14 yrs ever did either. eom. ellenfl Aug 2012 #89
I didn't have a good role model, and I was terrified of repeat behavior Siwsan Aug 2012 #4
Your history sounds similar Lindsay Aug 2012 #77
I am childfree TlalocW Aug 2012 #5
I feel for you ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #8
I'm guessing that was eHarmony. I think it did the same to me TlalocW Aug 2012 #14
No Kids No Debt No Regret TheMastersNemesis Aug 2012 #6
Makes perfect sense to me. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #9
I will not. I'm 27. Partly physical reasons. Akoto Aug 2012 #7
I accompanied one of my bestest friends having a tubal ligation at the tender age of 20. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #10
I am curious what decade/year this was. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #13
It was in the early 1970's. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #15
My older daughter begged to get her tubes tied marlakay Aug 2012 #19
That's because manjunk is sacred, don't ya know? AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #25
Yeah, but I won, dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #21
You go girl and I mean that. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #29
Sistah!!!!!! dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #41
Nov 10th. AtomicKitten Aug 2012 #48
Nov 8th....!! dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #56
Let's hear it for Scorpio's!...October 30th. Auntie Bush Aug 2012 #66
Scorpios are known for survival and regeneration, right? dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #67
I know a guy who had to fight tooth and nail and get written approval from his kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #39
That is amazing... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #58
I was stunned. I told him if he'd been in LA County he probably kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #68
Me. It drives my family nuts... a la izquierda Aug 2012 #11
No children and I would not have married my husband if he wanted children livetohike Aug 2012 #12
No kids and that is how I like it Ya Basta Aug 2012 #16
Never really wanted to have kids. tanyev Aug 2012 #17
Me! ThatsMyBarack Aug 2012 #20
Yes! ohiosmith Aug 2012 #22
I have never wanted kids. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #23
No kids for me. My only sibling has produced 4. Lex Aug 2012 #24
Yep. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #26
"Because a parent should want their children to have a better life than they had." dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #95
I've settled on mechanical children. nt Codeine Aug 2012 #27
I chose not to have children. ohheckyeah Aug 2012 #28
No kids. kiva Aug 2012 #30
My husband and I decided Texasgal Aug 2012 #31
I went to great lengths to avoid any "why" in the question... dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #34
When I turned 40 Texasgal Aug 2012 #36
I did years ago and I'm happy with my step sons madokie Aug 2012 #32
whooops MFM008 Aug 2012 #33
Yes. Happy childhood, happily married 30 years. Did not want to reproduce. Had myself fixed. MotherPetrie Aug 2012 #35
I DecidedNot To When I Was 5 stuckinodi Aug 2012 #37
Childhood sucks Kolesar Aug 2012 #38
I decided not to father children in 1965. MineralMan Aug 2012 #40
Leaning that way barring anything unexpected Posteritatis Aug 2012 #42
Long ago. longship Aug 2012 #43
I decided when I was about 25 I didn't want any. Jazzgirl Aug 2012 #44
Not as unusual as you might think. Cleita Aug 2012 #45
Love kids but don't want any of my own blueamy66 Aug 2012 #46
Had a vasectomy about a year ago. Elad Aug 2012 #47
Yes. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #49
Me too! OrwellwasRight Aug 2012 #53
My son has never wanted children lunatica Aug 2012 #50
"Having a family is like having a bowling alley installed in your brain." - Redd Foxx Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2012 #51
I never wanted kids, with the brief exception Joe Shlabotnik Aug 2012 #52
No...my aunt did, tho... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #54
I am also childfree by choice. beac Aug 2012 #55
My wife knew in 11th grade. orpupilofnature57 Aug 2012 #57
I chose back in high school to not have kids. luv_mykatz Aug 2012 #59
No kids ...but I have 4 parrots ...which are much better IMO. L0oniX Aug 2012 #60
I never wanted kids. I decided this while I was still a child and I reached Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #61
I have. But my daughters, as usual, won't listen to me. randome Aug 2012 #62
Never wanted them, lovemydog Aug 2012 #63
I love taking my young cousins to the zoo, theme park or movies..... marmar Aug 2012 #64
My wife and I will not... LucasD Aug 2012 #65
Yes I made that decision donheld Aug 2012 #69
Same here. MinneapolisMatt Aug 2012 #78
Nope, None, Nada IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #70
I'm not raising mine to be corporate serfs. Prometheus Bound Aug 2012 #71
Good Luck with that IgnatiusReilly Aug 2012 #72
Only true PowerToThePeople Aug 2012 #86
Childfree, twice sterilized REP Aug 2012 #73
Zero. It's not that I don't like kids. I just don't think I could eat a whole one by myself. :) MichaelSoE Aug 2012 #74
LOL! That and your signature line! randome Aug 2012 #85
22 And I dont want Kids outsideworld Aug 2012 #75
Here here ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #76
I've practiced "safe sex" for decades, successfully. no_hypocrisy Aug 2012 #79
My 45 year old daugher Lebam in LA Aug 2012 #80
Me and Mrs. ZBD ... zbdent Aug 2012 #81
Also yes mythology Aug 2012 #82
I have. sarge43 Aug 2012 #83
I did. It did not work out as planned. PowerToThePeople Aug 2012 #84
Childfree and happy! We are Devo Aug 2012 #87
As a young girl, I never wanted kids. As I grew older, that never changed. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #88
Never wanted kids biological or otherwise TorchTheWitch Aug 2012 #90
I can't stand children. Given that, I've made the quite rational decision not to have any. Grave Grumbler Aug 2012 #91
I don't like them either n/t We are Devo Aug 2012 #96
No kids here, but I teach school roody Aug 2012 #92
No biological kids, just four legged fur kids avebury Aug 2012 #93
None though I'm not sure it's all choice treestar Aug 2012 #94
I Have Great Respect For People Who Opt For No Children. Paladin Aug 2012 #97
child free by choice here Scout Aug 2012 #98
my brother shanti Aug 2012 #99

Horse with no Name

(33,958 posts)
1. You might enjoy this
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:26 PM
Aug 2012
http://colorblindmomma.blogspot.com/

>>>snip

Adoption is by far the most wonderful experience of my life. People often ask me "why" I would adopt when I physically am able to have a child. This question always gives me a little chuckle inside. I think that a lot, or most, women have that "I must carry a child" feeling bred into them. I did not. When Steaven and I were only dating we agreed that we didn't want anymore children, and that if we ever changed our minds, adoption was what we wanted to do. We have both always been very aware of the number of children without loving homes. For several years before I even wanted a child, I searched for an adoption agency that I could work with to photograph children for adoption. For what ever reason, I always hit a brick wall. But, through all of that searching, I guess I saw one too many little faces needing a mommy and daddy. So, one morning I woke up and could not stop thinking about it. I had to do this. And with a little persuasion, Steaven felt the same way.

TexasProgresive

(12,159 posts)
2. I did when I married.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:36 PM
Aug 2012

My wife had 4 children from a previous marriage. She had a hysterectomy. I married her in full knowledge that I would not be a biological parent- but non the less I am their parent- just ask them.

 

Alduin

(501 posts)
3. I've been in a long-term relationship with my gf...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:37 PM
Aug 2012

and she doesn't want any kids and I don't want any kids.

That's one of the many reasons why I fell in love with her.

Siwsan

(26,305 posts)
4. I didn't have a good role model, and I was terrified of repeat behavior
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:38 PM
Aug 2012

Everything looked fine on the surface, but there are things a mother should never say to a daughter, and the scars never went away. My sister was luckier - out of target range, I guess, and she's one of the best Moms on the planet.

I am fortunate to have a niece and two nephews who love me to a depth I sometimes worry I don't deserve.

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
77. Your history sounds similar
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:12 AM
Aug 2012

to mine. I am too much like my own mother, and I wouldn't wish that on another child.

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
5. I am childfree
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:46 PM
Aug 2012

I've never seen kids in my future. Romantic relationships have ended because of it. Family members have gotten on my case - to their chagrin once I start arguing my side. I tried one dating program once and essentially gave up even after sitting down with the people running it and explaining my position, which they refused to respect, thinking if they showed me "great" women who wanted kids, I would change my mind. I'm 40-years-old now. I got a vasectomy in my late 20s just to be on the safe side.

I'm not married, but I'm not afraid of being alone, and not everyone is made to walk the same path of marriage and kids or even marriage. Looking at the lives of some fellow childfree friends, they seem to find incredible enjoyment from the things they do - from their hobbies to their jobs and volunteer work. I have childfree friends who work in Sri Lanka with poor families, especially children, do depression hotline volunteer work, feral cat rescue, etc.

And I don't hate kids - since I earn quite a bit from them as a childrens entertainer. I just never wanted to put in any effort in raising my own.

TlalocW

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
8. I feel for you
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:54 PM
Aug 2012

I tried one of those dating websites with the surveys, really just for fun, and I suspect my strong reaction to not wanting to be married or have kids was why it came back "Sorry, we could not find a match for you."

I've also had a good long term relationship end when my GF realized I was serious when I said on our first date that I did not want to get married or have kids (which she said Oh, I'm the same way...) and finally admitted years later when we split "I really thought you'd change your mind eventually".

TlalocW

(15,392 posts)
14. I'm guessing that was eHarmony. I think it did the same to me
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:09 PM
Aug 2012

Funny story - I pretty much have a lifetime free membership to Match.com because I was probably one of the first people to join it when it was a free site. So I've essentially been on it for 15 years, and I'm still trying to see if I can get its software to realize that I don't want matches sent to me if they want kids.

At one point, I programmed a database-driven Childfree dating website, partly to learn a new programming language, partly to see if I could find anyone. I got too busy and couldn't keep up with maintain it and the rest of life.

My last girlfriend was like yours. She broke up with me because even though she said she didn't want kids, she apparently did.

TlalocW

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
6. No Kids No Debt No Regret
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:47 PM
Aug 2012

My title may sound a bit cynical but I will explain. After I got back from Vietnam I found myself economically well behind others who did not go into the military. In 1969 we had kind of a recession and I could not find decent employment. And I ended up married as well.

I spent 1 1/2 years in grad school to qualify for teaching, but decided that was not going to work. My wife finally finished school. When we did find jobs they paid little. My wife worked as a clerk in health insurance at low pay. I eventually found temp employment with the state of Colorado with DOL. However, it would be close to a year before I got lucky and found permanent employment.

During our careers we were doing ok, but never felt secure enough monetarily to have kids. My wife was working a lot of hours and life went on from year to year. We have both been retired for over a decade and have a reasonable lifestyle. Looking back we do not see how we could have ever raised kids and stayed financially solvent.

It is not that I do not like kids. Our situation was that we felt that we needed to make a lot more money to give children what they needed. Today we simply do not know how younger people today with 3 or 4 kids are making it.

There is on other factor that cemented our decision to not have children. At DOL I was seeing jobs evaporate and become more insecure and more scarce. With the election of Reagan the job market has been trashed over time. Now the prospect of some one having a long term secure job over 30 or 40 years with retirement security is evaporating like snow in July. The GOP and its allies have taken away economic security for the workers in this country.

My take on what the GOP has done is sentence workers to having low income at time when they need the most to afford their kids. Until Reagan your highest income was just before you retired. Now you will be done by 40 the way the GOP has arranged things.

Now I see so many parents who are literally supporting their kids now that the GOP has screwed up the economy. Clinton did not help by passing NAFTA.

We might have felt otherwise had we felt economically secure when we were younger.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. Makes perfect sense to me.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:58 PM
Aug 2012

I stopped at 2, when I was 27.,AFTER I divorced.
Never regretted making a permanent decision. In fact, I knew damn well that biological urges to reproduce could be very strong and getting tubal ligation was going to be a smart move.
Love both "kids" to death, but was definitely ready to not get pregnant again.
Now, as time has proven, it was a wise decision for me, and I think my sons have made a wise decision.

But boy howdy, telling anyone down here in the South that there is no chance of being a Grandma gets me pitiful cries of sympathy.Family is a HUGE issue down here.

Akoto

(4,267 posts)
7. I will not. I'm 27. Partly physical reasons.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:48 PM
Aug 2012

I am capable of having children in the biological sense, but my physical disability makes sex less than appealing to me. Too much pain involved.

That aside, I just don't want kids. I don't even want a spouse. People think it's strange, but I enjoy being alone and having my own life, as much as I'm able to. What's more, I wouldn't want to burden others with my problems, and I surely couldn't provide a good life for a kid.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
10. I accompanied one of my bestest friends having a tubal ligation at the tender age of 20.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 05:58 PM
Aug 2012

She had a hell of a time convincing the doctor she was not only okay with the decision, but adamant about it. She was a wonderful "auntie" to my two children and has never, ever regretted her decision.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
13. I am curious what decade/year this was.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:03 PM
Aug 2012

Because in the 70's ( 1974) I had to fight like hell to get a tubal.
Seems they had formula...your age times the number of your kids had to be 140 or something..
I remember, on hearing the formula, thinking how the docs were forcing women to breed.
Also you had to have TWO dr. approvals AND a shrink eval.
If you were a woman.
My husband, as it turns out, had NO problem walking in and getting a vasectomy.

marlakay

(11,512 posts)
19. My older daughter begged to get her tubes tied
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:36 PM
Aug 2012

When she was in her early 20's, she had already had two kids young, both times using birth control that didn't work and she didn't want abortion but knew she was getting pregnant too easy. Since she had no medical at the time they wouldn't do it and said she was too young.

Around 25 she had a tubal pregnancy that almost killed her, she was on Kaiser by then and she begged them while she was opened up to tie her tubes. Once again they said no you are too young.

She is 33 now, thankfully no more pregnancies but my son n law wouldn't get the simple operation done and I have been angry about that for years.


 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
25. That's because manjunk is sacred, don't ya know?
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:54 PM
Aug 2012

It's surreal the neanderthals are trying to roll back women's reproductive rights in the 21st century.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
21. Yeah, but I won,
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:43 PM
Aug 2012

When I kicked out the ex-( he seriously believed in barefoot and pregnant!)
I went on welfare with the kids.
Turns out welfare was only too happy to snip my breeder tubes, for free.
No formulas, no shrinks, they could not let me into the hospital fast enough.
Then I used them for childcare while I went to college on work study , as a para-legal,
( NO loans) and I got the kids, a college degree and sued the ex for back child support.
" I am woman hear me roar"......big time!

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
29. You go girl and I mean that.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:01 PM
Aug 2012

I am and have always been a firm believer in correcting the course of one's life without shame or concern for rocking the boat. I too raised my 2 kids without child support because my ex thought it was amusing to hide his inheritance and lawyer up. I did my homework, represented myself in court, and the year my youngest graduated from HS the hammer came down on him and there was a reckoning.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
41. Sistah!!!!!!
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:16 PM
Aug 2012

a kindred spirit.
I am a big believer in TIME...no matter how long it takes, the scales WILL balance out.
It's a Scorpio thing.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
39. I know a guy who had to fight tooth and nail and get written approval from his
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:58 PM
Aug 2012

GF before his physician would do a vasectomy - he was over 45 at the time, single, NEVER wanted kids, and the GF didn't even live with him.

This was only a few years ago, but it was in Orange County, CA, which is full of fundies.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
68. I was stunned. I told him if he'd been in LA County he probably
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 11:08 PM
Aug 2012

could have walked into any urologist's office and had it done, no questions asked, on the spot.

He isn't one to get all angry, but he was pretty offended and stunned by what he went through.

a la izquierda

(11,797 posts)
11. Me. It drives my family nuts...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:00 PM
Aug 2012

and is a cause for concern among my inlaws.
I'm 35, my husband is 38. We like to travel. I love my nieces and nephews, but I don't want to live with them.

livetohike

(22,165 posts)
12. No children and I would not have married my husband if he wanted children
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:00 PM
Aug 2012

I'm 60 years old and we have been married 37 years. Being child free has worked for us.

 

Ya Basta

(391 posts)
16. No kids and that is how I like it
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:19 PM
Aug 2012

I am 46 and never wanted to have kids. My girlfriend feels the same way. We both love being together *by ourselves*. We wouldn't have it any other way.

We both are also not interested in getting married. We are both of the opinion that we don't need some government or church certificate to certify our relationship with each other. We've been together now for 11 years.


tanyev

(42,635 posts)
17. Never really wanted to have kids.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:26 PM
Aug 2012

In my younger years I got the patronizing, "Oh, that will change as you get older" remarks. I'm 48 and it never did. No regrets.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
23. I have never wanted kids.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:48 PM
Aug 2012

They told me that the biological clock would go into overdrive, but I am in my 40s now and have never regretted it - or changed my mind. My x-DH was of the same mind. I am not a depopulate person by any stretch - just never wanted to be a parent.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
26. Yep.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:57 PM
Aug 2012

Unfortunately, there's a terrible genetic disease in my husband's family. He and I were the only responsible ones who chose not to have biological children. Because a parent should want their children to have a better life than they had.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
95. "Because a parent should want their children to have a better life than they had."
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:44 AM
Aug 2012

Potential parents today will be the first generation where that is not feasible, because of the economic and environmental changes in our country.
Our educational, health, per capita income, and employment levels are far down the scale of livability compared to many other countries now, and in the foreseeable future.
Pitiful, isn't it?

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
28. I chose not to have children.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

I had one miscarriage and later had endometriosis and chose a hysterectomy at the age of 30. The usual treatments for endometriosis didnt' work for me and I knew I didn't want children.

I've never regretted not having children. It just wasn't for me.

Texasgal

(17,048 posts)
31. My husband and I decided
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:03 PM
Aug 2012

before we got married that we would not have children. I could not take birth control pills so my husband had a vasectomy.

It was a decision that we make together about our lives and quite frankly it annoys me to no end when people ask us why. ( not this thread, just in general )

Collectively we wanted to focus on our careers and my husband had elderly parents that we knew we would have to take care of and we did until their deaths in our home. We also have younger siblings and now nieces and nephews that have children so we get our "kid" boost frequently.

We have never regretted our decision. It's been great for us and I wish that people would respect our choices, we are not kid haters or anti-parent people. We just decided that this would be better for us.

After 12 years of marriage my husband is clinically ill. I can only thank my lucky stars that I do not have a child that would have to deal with an ill parent.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
34. I went to great lengths to avoid any "why" in the question...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

I understand exactly how you feel about people asking why this, why that..
t'aint no body's bizness, I say.

Texasgal

(17,048 posts)
36. When I turned 40
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:16 PM
Aug 2012

my mom said " I'll finally stop wishing" I was surprised, she never said much about me having kids. Now, other family and sometimes complete strangers are just amazed. It's annoying! LOL!

madokie

(51,076 posts)
32. I did years ago and I'm happy with my step sons
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:07 PM
Aug 2012

All my life I've wanted to be a step dad as I knew kids who didn't have both parents in their lives and how rough it is for some of them and I always felt that I'd like to help with that. Even though my participation is only a small one at least I did do some of my dream.

 

MotherPetrie

(3,145 posts)
35. Yes. Happy childhood, happily married 30 years. Did not want to reproduce. Had myself fixed.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:11 PM
Aug 2012

Have never regretted it. Children were a responsibility I knew I did not want.

stuckinodi

(113 posts)
37. I DecidedNot To When I Was 5
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:37 PM
Aug 2012

All mothers - including my own - seemed so unhappy. I didn't want to be like them.

I was married in my 20s for 5 years - used the pill. Never had a date after my divorce. I'm 59 now.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
38. Childhood sucks
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:45 PM
Aug 2012

And since every predicted disaster except nuclear war has occurred in the last few decades, I have spared my children an unpleasant fate.

MineralMan

(146,338 posts)
40. I decided not to father children in 1965.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:06 PM
Aug 2012

I have not had any children, and both of my wives were in agreement with the decision. It had to do with population issues.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
42. Leaning that way barring anything unexpected
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:23 PM
Aug 2012

I'm slightly skeptical of my potential parenting abilities (I'm ill at ease with kids but would be fine if you could raise them in vats for the first decade or something) and smart enough to think any doubt there means I should default to "no" for the time being.

Also, a number of my friends in the immediate area have their own kids and I'm surprisingly satisfied being the de-facto uncle a half-dozen times over.

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. Long ago.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:24 PM
Aug 2012

But I would be more worried about the Quiverfull people than why some people may not want to bring children into a screwed up world. What's with them?


Jazzgirl

(3,744 posts)
44. I decided when I was about 25 I didn't want any.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:28 PM
Aug 2012

I haven't regretted it either. I've been told I'm selfish. I told them "fuck you".

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
45. Not as unusual as you might think.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:34 PM
Aug 2012

Most recently a young male acquaintance, who has an inherited mental illness, has decided not to have children for that reason, not to pass his genes on. However, he is a doting uncle to his brother's children. It is making it hard for him to find a potential spouse though who also doesn't want children either, however, there are women out there who don't want children as well.

My view is that people who don't want to raise a family shouldn't be expected to or criticized for it. The kids wouldn't be raised in a happy family IMHO. Well, not even my opinion. I grew up with classmates, back when everyone had families cause of poor access to birth control, and they knew when they weren't wanted and when their parents considered them a burden. It was not good for their self-esteem.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
46. Love kids but don't want any of my own
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:35 PM
Aug 2012

I spoil my nieces, nephews, great nieces, great nephews and stepson though....

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
50. My son has never wanted children
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:54 PM
Aug 2012

He's 41 years old now and still doesn't want any. That's fine with me although I feel that if he did have a child he would never regret it just like I've never regretted having him. I stopped after having him and even though I got married again I told my husband I didn't want any more children.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
52. I never wanted kids, with the brief exception
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 08:55 PM
Aug 2012

of a period of about 9 months when my (ex)wife found out she was pregnant. We did everything right, but our daughter died as an infant. I resumed not wanting to have kids again, just because I don't have much faith in the future of society or the environment. My ex-wife never really got over the loss, but desperately wanted to have kids again, but it never happened. I heard she finally gave up trying a year or so ago when she turned 40, and though I'd never say anything to her about it, I think thats probably for the best.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
54. No...my aunt did, tho...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:03 PM
Aug 2012

She was the only one in our family who never had children. She wasn't married until her 40s, either. I don't think she regrets that decision. We're a very close family, so, I think she looks at all her nieces and nephews, and her great nieces and nephews, as an extension of her main family - which is now just her and her husband, who does have a biological daughter of his own.

We're the type of family where my cousin's kids look at me as an uncle and my mom as a strong grandmotherly aunt. So, I'm sure that helped.

beac

(9,992 posts)
55. I am also childfree by choice.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:16 PM
Aug 2012

Never felt the "biological clock" tick a single tock. mr beac had the same lack of desire to parent from a young age.

Neither of my parents were ever the "When are you giving me grandbabies?" type and are 100% fine w/my decision. mr beac's mother is disappointed that neither of her kids want their own. Not having to deal w/her as a high-strung, busy-body, bad-advice-dispensing grandma is one added bonus to the childfree lifestyle.

We are not child-haters my any means. We are both "great with kids" and enjoy their company, play and interact with them enthusiastically... and are glad that we can pick and chose the times to do so.

The "Who will take look after you when you are old?" question pisses me off b/c I've worked with the elderly and know that having one kid or many is no guarantee of care in ones golden years. Not having children allows us to put away enough money to provide for our end-of-life care, thank you very much!

luv_mykatz

(441 posts)
59. I chose back in high school to not have kids.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:51 PM
Aug 2012

I graduated in the early '70's.

I have NEVER regretted not having kids.

I figured the best gift I could give the future generations and this space ship Earth, would be to NOT BREED.

As our society has continued, and unfortunately gone down the fundy whack job path, I am very glad I never provided more canon fodder for their wars, nor working poor stuck in low wage dead end jobs.

And...human kind needs to learn to share this planet fairly with the other beings, both animal and plant, who live here with us.

Unfortunately, the body parts that do the breeding have no brain.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
61. I never wanted kids. I decided this while I was still a child and I reached
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:23 PM
Aug 2012

that decision by simply observing the consequences of spawning by those around me. This decision was reinforced during my education in biology. I firmly believe that, if women really knew what they were in for before getting pregnant, the race would become extinct.

Now that I'm closer to death than to birth, looking back at my life has only confirmed that I made the wisest choice. I have and have had, on the whole, a wonderful life so far and very little of it would have been possible if I had had children. In my view, children are like a mortgage, they tie you down to a particular place and saddle you with endless payments to maintain conformity. They make it impossible to tell an unreasonable employer to go fuck himself. They force you to submit to demands that no free, sane person would ever submit to, and they are a financial black hole that has essentially zero chance of ever paying off.

My atheism has also paid an important part of this choice. If you know that this life is your one and only chance at everything, deciding to sacrifice most of it in order to spawn takes on a whole new dimension.

I've been the guy that all my friend's wives hate and usually forbid from seeing. OTOH, I'm also the only guy that has been there to help when the marriage falls apart and they are looking to rebuild some happiness in the aftermath.

I love kids and they love me. But trust me, being the favorite 'Uncle' is a way better job than being mom or dad.

marmar

(77,097 posts)
64. I love taking my young cousins to the zoo, theme park or movies.....
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:32 PM
Aug 2012

....... then returning them to their owners at the end of the day.

LucasD

(74 posts)
65. My wife and I will not...
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:38 PM
Aug 2012

... be having children, and the older my father gets the more pressure he has
been applying. He is in his 70s now and I am his only son. I've never been what
he really wanted in a son, although I'm like him in many ways, so my failure
to create a grandson is another nail in the proverbial coffin.

The funny thing is, only two of my four sisters have children, so perhaps it's
a genetic predisposition to not wanting children.

Sometimes I feel bad about not carrying on the bloodline, but I don't want to pass on
my genes, although people much worse than me do it all of the time.
I also have a bleak view of the future of the human race; something that has haunted
me from a very young age.

Sometimes my wife gets womanly urges to procreate, and becomes moody
about not having children, especially when all of her friends are popping out babies
to keep up with the Joneses, but then she'll catch the evening news and the
urges quickly disappear.

My wife and I are intelligent individuals, maybe our child would be a genius who
solves all of the worlds problems, or maybe he/she would end up living in a gutter
when everything collapses, wondering why he/she was ever born.

I've heard all of the arguments. From "that's why you were put on this planet", to
"we need more white people".

I dunno... perhaps Bob Dylan said it best...

"You've thrown the worst fear that can ever be hurled. Fear to bring children Into the world."

MinneapolisMatt

(1,550 posts)
78. Same here.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:15 AM
Aug 2012

I suppose if someone dropped a baby on my doorstep and I had to be a parent, I could. But I don't want to be. My brother and his wife are doing a fine job providing grand children for our parents.

 

IgnatiusReilly

(34 posts)
70. Nope, None, Nada
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:16 AM
Aug 2012

Have the same partner for 27 years but been keeping company for over 30 now.

Never, Never wanted kids.

Besides what kind of parent would intentionally condemn a child to a life of corporate serfdom? Those who did breed have done just that.

America has been regressing since 1980 and is not getting any better and will not be changing anytime soon.



Prometheus Bound

(3,489 posts)
71. I'm not raising mine to be corporate serfs.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:24 AM
Aug 2012

There are other choices.

Being an entrepreneur isn't for everyone, but if you bring your child up to think of it as normal and even expected, they tend to look at things from a different perspective from their schoolmates.

 

IgnatiusReilly

(34 posts)
72. Good Luck with that
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 05:34 AM
Aug 2012

Unless you are independently wealthy, part of the 1%, they will be drones for the corporations in one way or another.


 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
86. Only true
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:30 AM
Aug 2012

If they live a lifestyle that the media and corporate interests try to sell them.

I am a slave. I have allowed myself to get here by believing the lies that were fed me in my life and acting on those lies. I know this. I can try to teach my child to see this before he sells himself to slavery also.

outsideworld

(601 posts)
75. 22 And I dont want Kids
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:02 AM
Aug 2012

A couple of years ago I thought i would grow up having the regular life pathway in society "Get married have kids etc"

But I came to the conclusion that I just dont want kids neither do I want a companion of any sort. I am happy single and childless

no_hypocrisy

(46,234 posts)
79. I've practiced "safe sex" for decades, successfully.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:16 AM
Aug 2012

No regrets about no children.

I've had older women admonish me, telling me I would be alone when I'm elderly. Have children so someone will take care of you they'd warn. One individual told me to go to a bar and steal some sperm to protect my Golden Years. (You can't make up this stuff, folks.)

While I've thought I would be a kick-ass aunt, my brother and sister both have not had their own children as well.

When I want my "fix" of children, I teach Sunday School. That's enough for me.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
81. Me and Mrs. ZBD ...
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:29 AM
Aug 2012

and since mine was the easier of the two "permanent solutions" ... I "manned up" and took the step, instead of insisting SHE do it.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
82. Also yes
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:42 AM
Aug 2012

I have a host of potential medical proclivities in my family like several types of cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and male pattern baldness (okay that one's a little less serious). Also my dad is an emotionally and verbally abusive jackass and I worry that I have the potential to do that to a kid. It's bad enough that I have to worry I might do something similar to a potential partner who could at least tell me I'm being an ass and could tell me to take a hike.

But it helps that the women of the world also seem to agree that I shouldn't produce children.

sarge43

(28,946 posts)
83. I have.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:08 AM
Aug 2012

For several reasons

1. I never believe I'd be a good parent

2. Flat not interested

3. Didn't meet the man I wanted to marry until I was in my mid 30's. Single parenthood had no appeal

3. Back when women were automatically discharged from service for pregnancy. Motherhood vs. career, easy choice for me

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
84. I did. It did not work out as planned.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:20 AM
Aug 2012

One child, very happy about it. May adopt a second child later.

The scary thought is, if we opt out of the gene pool what is left? Mittens has how many children? How F'd up are all of them? How many F'd up people in the next generation because of them? We will be overrun with mindless rethugs if this is the path we follow. I have visions of zombie movies going around in my head....

We are Devo

(193 posts)
87. Childfree and happy!
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:35 AM
Aug 2012

I'm 48 and it's the best decision I ever made. I love sleeping in and traveling! I knew at about age 10 that I didn't want to be a mother.

CrispyQ

(36,539 posts)
88. As a young girl, I never wanted kids. As I grew older, that never changed.
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:56 AM
Aug 2012

My cousins collected dolls. I collected trolls & stuffed animals. When we all played house together, they 'stayed home' while I went to my vet clinic & worked with my animals.

All my life, even into my late 20s when I was still single, I heard that someday I would meet a nice man & then I would want children. I met the nice man, but the kid thing didn't change. It would have been a deal breaker, too. There was no way I was going to have kids. I was not at all interested in having that level of commitment in my life. Now, 25 years later, no regrets. It just wasn't me.

My grandmother told me I was selfish. I see how badly so many people are at parenting & I think, they are the selfish ones - bringing a child into the world & not taking the time required to raise a decent human being. Then the rest of us have to deal with the little shit. That's selfish.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
90. Never wanted kids biological or otherwise
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:09 AM
Aug 2012

I was still always told I would change my mind just because I'm female. I never have. In fact, I became even more adamant about it. Some people have even responded as though there was something mentally wrong with me. I will never understand that.


avebury

(10,952 posts)
93. No biological kids, just four legged fur kids
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:23 AM
Aug 2012

When I look at what is happening in this country and the direction it is heading towards I am so glad that I never had children. I don't know why on earth anyone would choose to have children in this day in age.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
94. None though I'm not sure it's all choice
Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:32 AM
Aug 2012

Partly not being very good at relationships and therefore unable to get one started - and I always did feel as a woman of the 80s that I did not want any child unless I could support them by myself, and never had that confidence, plus my family would be very disappointed in single motherhood of the deliberate kind and I just don't want to put up with them (but I do approve if other people want to do it).

So it doesn't feel entirely like a choice but was a wise move and I love my nieces/nephews and was able to be more helpful in their upbringing than if I had my own kids to contend with.



Paladin

(28,277 posts)
97. I Have Great Respect For People Who Opt For No Children.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:46 AM
Aug 2012

Like most folks, I know of far too many couples who should never, ever have decided to become parents.

Scout

(8,624 posts)
98. child free by choice here
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:35 PM
Aug 2012

never really wanted my own, but didn't do anything permanent until i was in my 40s.

my second husband never had children either, and didn't want any in the future, that was one thing that made him more attractive as a potential partner.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
99. my brother
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 01:19 PM
Aug 2012

he's 52, and has never really wanted any kids. about 18 years ago, a girlfriend of his got pregnant, but she miscarried, and it was a boy. that was kind of sad, as my brother is the last of our line, so when bro goes, so does the family name. however, knowing my bro, who is rather a self-centered person with lots of issues, it's probably for the best. me and my sister more than made up for his lack - we both had four sons each!

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