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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsanyone here decided to NOT have biological children?
Question assumes you are otherwise capable of having children but have made a conscious decision to not have them.
Said decision can include any permanent birth control measures you have taken because of this decision.
Disclosure: My 2 sons have., since an early age, decided to not have kids, and in the intervening 20 years, nothing is changing their mind. I respect their decision, just wondering how common the feeling is.
Horse with no Name
(33,958 posts)>>>snip
Adoption is by far the most wonderful experience of my life. People often ask me "why" I would adopt when I physically am able to have a child. This question always gives me a little chuckle inside. I think that a lot, or most, women have that "I must carry a child" feeling bred into them. I did not. When Steaven and I were only dating we agreed that we didn't want anymore children, and that if we ever changed our minds, adoption was what we wanted to do. We have both always been very aware of the number of children without loving homes. For several years before I even wanted a child, I searched for an adoption agency that I could work with to photograph children for adoption. For what ever reason, I always hit a brick wall. But, through all of that searching, I guess I saw one too many little faces needing a mommy and daddy. So, one morning I woke up and could not stop thinking about it. I had to do this. And with a little persuasion, Steaven felt the same way.
TexasProgresive
(12,159 posts)My wife had 4 children from a previous marriage. She had a hysterectomy. I married her in full knowledge that I would not be a biological parent- but non the less I am their parent- just ask them.
cali
(114,904 posts)Alduin
(501 posts)and she doesn't want any kids and I don't want any kids.
That's one of the many reasons why I fell in love with her.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)Siwsan
(26,305 posts)Everything looked fine on the surface, but there are things a mother should never say to a daughter, and the scars never went away. My sister was luckier - out of target range, I guess, and she's one of the best Moms on the planet.
I am fortunate to have a niece and two nephews who love me to a depth I sometimes worry I don't deserve.
Lindsay
(3,276 posts)to mine. I am too much like my own mother, and I wouldn't wish that on another child.
TlalocW
(15,392 posts)I've never seen kids in my future. Romantic relationships have ended because of it. Family members have gotten on my case - to their chagrin once I start arguing my side. I tried one dating program once and essentially gave up even after sitting down with the people running it and explaining my position, which they refused to respect, thinking if they showed me "great" women who wanted kids, I would change my mind. I'm 40-years-old now. I got a vasectomy in my late 20s just to be on the safe side.
I'm not married, but I'm not afraid of being alone, and not everyone is made to walk the same path of marriage and kids or even marriage. Looking at the lives of some fellow childfree friends, they seem to find incredible enjoyment from the things they do - from their hobbies to their jobs and volunteer work. I have childfree friends who work in Sri Lanka with poor families, especially children, do depression hotline volunteer work, feral cat rescue, etc.
And I don't hate kids - since I earn quite a bit from them as a childrens entertainer. I just never wanted to put in any effort in raising my own.
TlalocW
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I tried one of those dating websites with the surveys, really just for fun, and I suspect my strong reaction to not wanting to be married or have kids was why it came back "Sorry, we could not find a match for you."
I've also had a good long term relationship end when my GF realized I was serious when I said on our first date that I did not want to get married or have kids (which she said Oh, I'm the same way...) and finally admitted years later when we split "I really thought you'd change your mind eventually".
TlalocW
(15,392 posts)Funny story - I pretty much have a lifetime free membership to Match.com because I was probably one of the first people to join it when it was a free site. So I've essentially been on it for 15 years, and I'm still trying to see if I can get its software to realize that I don't want matches sent to me if they want kids.
At one point, I programmed a database-driven Childfree dating website, partly to learn a new programming language, partly to see if I could find anyone. I got too busy and couldn't keep up with maintain it and the rest of life.
My last girlfriend was like yours. She broke up with me because even though she said she didn't want kids, she apparently did.
TlalocW
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)My title may sound a bit cynical but I will explain. After I got back from Vietnam I found myself economically well behind others who did not go into the military. In 1969 we had kind of a recession and I could not find decent employment. And I ended up married as well.
I spent 1 1/2 years in grad school to qualify for teaching, but decided that was not going to work. My wife finally finished school. When we did find jobs they paid little. My wife worked as a clerk in health insurance at low pay. I eventually found temp employment with the state of Colorado with DOL. However, it would be close to a year before I got lucky and found permanent employment.
During our careers we were doing ok, but never felt secure enough monetarily to have kids. My wife was working a lot of hours and life went on from year to year. We have both been retired for over a decade and have a reasonable lifestyle. Looking back we do not see how we could have ever raised kids and stayed financially solvent.
It is not that I do not like kids. Our situation was that we felt that we needed to make a lot more money to give children what they needed. Today we simply do not know how younger people today with 3 or 4 kids are making it.
There is on other factor that cemented our decision to not have children. At DOL I was seeing jobs evaporate and become more insecure and more scarce. With the election of Reagan the job market has been trashed over time. Now the prospect of some one having a long term secure job over 30 or 40 years with retirement security is evaporating like snow in July. The GOP and its allies have taken away economic security for the workers in this country.
My take on what the GOP has done is sentence workers to having low income at time when they need the most to afford their kids. Until Reagan your highest income was just before you retired. Now you will be done by 40 the way the GOP has arranged things.
Now I see so many parents who are literally supporting their kids now that the GOP has screwed up the economy. Clinton did not help by passing NAFTA.
We might have felt otherwise had we felt economically secure when we were younger.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I stopped at 2, when I was 27.,AFTER I divorced.
Never regretted making a permanent decision. In fact, I knew damn well that biological urges to reproduce could be very strong and getting tubal ligation was going to be a smart move.
Love both "kids" to death, but was definitely ready to not get pregnant again.
Now, as time has proven, it was a wise decision for me, and I think my sons have made a wise decision.
But boy howdy, telling anyone down here in the South that there is no chance of being a Grandma gets me pitiful cries of sympathy.Family is a HUGE issue down here.
Akoto
(4,267 posts)I am capable of having children in the biological sense, but my physical disability makes sex less than appealing to me. Too much pain involved.
That aside, I just don't want kids. I don't even want a spouse. People think it's strange, but I enjoy being alone and having my own life, as much as I'm able to. What's more, I wouldn't want to burden others with my problems, and I surely couldn't provide a good life for a kid.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)She had a hell of a time convincing the doctor she was not only okay with the decision, but adamant about it. She was a wonderful "auntie" to my two children and has never, ever regretted her decision.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Because in the 70's ( 1974) I had to fight like hell to get a tubal.
Seems they had formula...your age times the number of your kids had to be 140 or something..
I remember, on hearing the formula, thinking how the docs were forcing women to breed.
Also you had to have TWO dr. approvals AND a shrink eval.
If you were a woman.
My husband, as it turns out, had NO problem walking in and getting a vasectomy.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Sounds like you also were put through the wringer.
marlakay
(11,512 posts)When she was in her early 20's, she had already had two kids young, both times using birth control that didn't work and she didn't want abortion but knew she was getting pregnant too easy. Since she had no medical at the time they wouldn't do it and said she was too young.
Around 25 she had a tubal pregnancy that almost killed her, she was on Kaiser by then and she begged them while she was opened up to tie her tubes. Once again they said no you are too young.
She is 33 now, thankfully no more pregnancies but my son n law wouldn't get the simple operation done and I have been angry about that for years.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)It's surreal the neanderthals are trying to roll back women's reproductive rights in the 21st century.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)When I kicked out the ex-( he seriously believed in barefoot and pregnant!)
I went on welfare with the kids.
Turns out welfare was only too happy to snip my breeder tubes, for free.
No formulas, no shrinks, they could not let me into the hospital fast enough.
Then I used them for childcare while I went to college on work study , as a para-legal,
( NO loans) and I got the kids, a college degree and sued the ex for back child support.
" I am woman hear me roar"......big time!
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)I am and have always been a firm believer in correcting the course of one's life without shame or concern for rocking the boat. I too raised my 2 kids without child support because my ex thought it was amusing to hide his inheritance and lawyer up. I did my homework, represented myself in court, and the year my youngest graduated from HS the hammer came down on him and there was a reckoning.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)a kindred spirit.
I am a big believer in TIME...no matter how long it takes, the scales WILL balance out.
It's a Scorpio thing.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)GF before his physician would do a vasectomy - he was over 45 at the time, single, NEVER wanted kids, and the GF didn't even live with him.
This was only a few years ago, but it was in Orange County, CA, which is full of fundies.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)that in this day and age....
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)could have walked into any urologist's office and had it done, no questions asked, on the spot.
He isn't one to get all angry, but he was pretty offended and stunned by what he went through.
a la izquierda
(11,797 posts)and is a cause for concern among my inlaws.
I'm 35, my husband is 38. We like to travel. I love my nieces and nephews, but I don't want to live with them.
livetohike
(22,165 posts)I'm 60 years old and we have been married 37 years. Being child free has worked for us.
Ya Basta
(391 posts)I am 46 and never wanted to have kids. My girlfriend feels the same way. We both love being together *by ourselves*. We wouldn't have it any other way.
We both are also not interested in getting married. We are both of the opinion that we don't need some government or church certificate to certify our relationship with each other. We've been together now for 11 years.
tanyev
(42,635 posts)In my younger years I got the patronizing, "Oh, that will change as you get older" remarks. I'm 48 and it never did. No regrets.
ThatsMyBarack
(7,641 posts)I've never been married, either.
ohiosmith
(24,262 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)They told me that the biological clock would go into overdrive, but I am in my 40s now and have never regretted it - or changed my mind. My x-DH was of the same mind. I am not a depopulate person by any stretch - just never wanted to be a parent.
Lex
(34,108 posts)I haven't had any regrets.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Unfortunately, there's a terrible genetic disease in my husband's family. He and I were the only responsible ones who chose not to have biological children. Because a parent should want their children to have a better life than they had.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Potential parents today will be the first generation where that is not feasible, because of the economic and environmental changes in our country.
Our educational, health, per capita income, and employment levels are far down the scale of livability compared to many other countries now, and in the foreseeable future.
Pitiful, isn't it?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)ohheckyeah
(9,314 posts)I had one miscarriage and later had endometriosis and chose a hysterectomy at the age of 30. The usual treatments for endometriosis didnt' work for me and I knew I didn't want children.
I've never regretted not having children. It just wasn't for me.
kiva
(4,373 posts)I'm 57 and my biological clock's alarm never went off, so happy with my decision.
Texasgal
(17,048 posts)before we got married that we would not have children. I could not take birth control pills so my husband had a vasectomy.
It was a decision that we make together about our lives and quite frankly it annoys me to no end when people ask us why. ( not this thread, just in general )
Collectively we wanted to focus on our careers and my husband had elderly parents that we knew we would have to take care of and we did until their deaths in our home. We also have younger siblings and now nieces and nephews that have children so we get our "kid" boost frequently.
We have never regretted our decision. It's been great for us and I wish that people would respect our choices, we are not kid haters or anti-parent people. We just decided that this would be better for us.
After 12 years of marriage my husband is clinically ill. I can only thank my lucky stars that I do not have a child that would have to deal with an ill parent.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)I understand exactly how you feel about people asking why this, why that..
t'aint no body's bizness, I say.
Texasgal
(17,048 posts)my mom said " I'll finally stop wishing" I was surprised, she never said much about me having kids. Now, other family and sometimes complete strangers are just amazed. It's annoying! LOL!
madokie
(51,076 posts)All my life I've wanted to be a step dad as I knew kids who didn't have both parents in their lives and how rough it is for some of them and I always felt that I'd like to help with that. Even though my participation is only a small one at least I did do some of my dream.
MFM008
(19,823 posts)I DID, then an accident happened. He will be 29 in a few weeks.....
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Have never regretted it. Children were a responsibility I knew I did not want.
stuckinodi
(113 posts)All mothers - including my own - seemed so unhappy. I didn't want to be like them.
I was married in my 20s for 5 years - used the pill. Never had a date after my divorce. I'm 59 now.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)And since every predicted disaster except nuclear war has occurred in the last few decades, I have spared my children an unpleasant fate.
MineralMan
(146,338 posts)I have not had any children, and both of my wives were in agreement with the decision. It had to do with population issues.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)I'm slightly skeptical of my potential parenting abilities (I'm ill at ease with kids but would be fine if you could raise them in vats for the first decade or something) and smart enough to think any doubt there means I should default to "no" for the time being.
Also, a number of my friends in the immediate area have their own kids and I'm surprisingly satisfied being the de-facto uncle a half-dozen times over.
longship
(40,416 posts)But I would be more worried about the Quiverfull people than why some people may not want to bring children into a screwed up world. What's with them?
Jazzgirl
(3,744 posts)I haven't regretted it either. I've been told I'm selfish. I told them "fuck you".
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Most recently a young male acquaintance, who has an inherited mental illness, has decided not to have children for that reason, not to pass his genes on. However, he is a doting uncle to his brother's children. It is making it hard for him to find a potential spouse though who also doesn't want children either, however, there are women out there who don't want children as well.
My view is that people who don't want to raise a family shouldn't be expected to or criticized for it. The kids wouldn't be raised in a happy family IMHO. Well, not even my opinion. I grew up with classmates, back when everyone had families cause of poor access to birth control, and they knew when they weren't wanted and when their parents considered them a burden. It was not good for their self-esteem.
blueamy66
(6,795 posts)I spoil my nieces, nephews, great nieces, great nephews and stepson though....
Elad
(11,395 posts)I'm 32 now. Never a doubt in my mind.
GoCubsGo
(32,097 posts)Let's just say that the mere thought of having a child was what made me pro-choice.
OrwellwasRight
(5,170 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)He's 41 years old now and still doesn't want any. That's fine with me although I feel that if he did have a child he would never regret it just like I've never regretted having him. I stopped after having him and even though I got married again I told my husband I didn't want any more children.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)of a period of about 9 months when my (ex)wife found out she was pregnant. We did everything right, but our daughter died as an infant. I resumed not wanting to have kids again, just because I don't have much faith in the future of society or the environment. My ex-wife never really got over the loss, but desperately wanted to have kids again, but it never happened. I heard she finally gave up trying a year or so ago when she turned 40, and though I'd never say anything to her about it, I think thats probably for the best.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)She was the only one in our family who never had children. She wasn't married until her 40s, either. I don't think she regrets that decision. We're a very close family, so, I think she looks at all her nieces and nephews, and her great nieces and nephews, as an extension of her main family - which is now just her and her husband, who does have a biological daughter of his own.
We're the type of family where my cousin's kids look at me as an uncle and my mom as a strong grandmotherly aunt. So, I'm sure that helped.
beac
(9,992 posts)Never felt the "biological clock" tick a single tock. mr beac had the same lack of desire to parent from a young age.
Neither of my parents were ever the "When are you giving me grandbabies?" type and are 100% fine w/my decision. mr beac's mother is disappointed that neither of her kids want their own. Not having to deal w/her as a high-strung, busy-body, bad-advice-dispensing grandma is one added bonus to the childfree lifestyle.
We are not child-haters my any means. We are both "great with kids" and enjoy their company, play and interact with them enthusiastically... and are glad that we can pick and chose the times to do so.
The "Who will take look after you when you are old?" question pisses me off b/c I've worked with the elderly and know that having one kid or many is no guarantee of care in ones golden years. Not having children allows us to put away enough money to provide for our end-of-life care, thank you very much!
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)luv_mykatz
(441 posts)I graduated in the early '70's.
I have NEVER regretted not having kids.
I figured the best gift I could give the future generations and this space ship Earth, would be to NOT BREED.
As our society has continued, and unfortunately gone down the fundy whack job path, I am very glad I never provided more canon fodder for their wars, nor working poor stuck in low wage dead end jobs.
And...human kind needs to learn to share this planet fairly with the other beings, both animal and plant, who live here with us.
Unfortunately, the body parts that do the breeding have no brain.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)that decision by simply observing the consequences of spawning by those around me. This decision was reinforced during my education in biology. I firmly believe that, if women really knew what they were in for before getting pregnant, the race would become extinct.
Now that I'm closer to death than to birth, looking back at my life has only confirmed that I made the wisest choice. I have and have had, on the whole, a wonderful life so far and very little of it would have been possible if I had had children. In my view, children are like a mortgage, they tie you down to a particular place and saddle you with endless payments to maintain conformity. They make it impossible to tell an unreasonable employer to go fuck himself. They force you to submit to demands that no free, sane person would ever submit to, and they are a financial black hole that has essentially zero chance of ever paying off.
My atheism has also paid an important part of this choice. If you know that this life is your one and only chance at everything, deciding to sacrifice most of it in order to spawn takes on a whole new dimension.
I've been the guy that all my friend's wives hate and usually forbid from seeing. OTOH, I'm also the only guy that has been there to help when the marriage falls apart and they are looking to rebuild some happiness in the aftermath.
I love kids and they love me. But trust me, being the favorite 'Uncle' is a way better job than being mom or dad.
randome
(34,845 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)never had them, don't regret it at all.
marmar
(77,097 posts)....... then returning them to their owners at the end of the day.
LucasD
(74 posts)... be having children, and the older my father gets the more pressure he has
been applying. He is in his 70s now and I am his only son. I've never been what
he really wanted in a son, although I'm like him in many ways, so my failure
to create a grandson is another nail in the proverbial coffin.
The funny thing is, only two of my four sisters have children, so perhaps it's
a genetic predisposition to not wanting children.
Sometimes I feel bad about not carrying on the bloodline, but I don't want to pass on
my genes, although people much worse than me do it all of the time.
I also have a bleak view of the future of the human race; something that has haunted
me from a very young age.
Sometimes my wife gets womanly urges to procreate, and becomes moody
about not having children, especially when all of her friends are popping out babies
to keep up with the Joneses, but then she'll catch the evening news and the
urges quickly disappear.
My wife and I are intelligent individuals, maybe our child would be a genius who
solves all of the worlds problems, or maybe he/she would end up living in a gutter
when everything collapses, wondering why he/she was ever born.
I've heard all of the arguments. From "that's why you were put on this planet", to
"we need more white people".
I dunno... perhaps Bob Dylan said it best...
"You've thrown the worst fear that can ever be hurled. Fear to bring children Into the world."
donheld
(21,311 posts)it helps that I'm gay.
MinneapolisMatt
(1,550 posts)I suppose if someone dropped a baby on my doorstep and I had to be a parent, I could. But I don't want to be. My brother and his wife are doing a fine job providing grand children for our parents.
IgnatiusReilly
(34 posts)Have the same partner for 27 years but been keeping company for over 30 now.
Never, Never wanted kids.
Besides what kind of parent would intentionally condemn a child to a life of corporate serfdom? Those who did breed have done just that.
America has been regressing since 1980 and is not getting any better and will not be changing anytime soon.
Prometheus Bound
(3,489 posts)There are other choices.
Being an entrepreneur isn't for everyone, but if you bring your child up to think of it as normal and even expected, they tend to look at things from a different perspective from their schoolmates.
IgnatiusReilly
(34 posts)Unless you are independently wealthy, part of the 1%, they will be drones for the corporations in one way or another.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)If they live a lifestyle that the media and corporate interests try to sell them.
I am a slave. I have allowed myself to get here by believing the lies that were fed me in my life and acting on those lies. I know this. I can try to teach my child to see this before he sells himself to slavery also.
REP
(21,691 posts)I haven't changed my mind since I knew I was CF when I was 9.
MichaelSoE
(1,576 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)outsideworld
(601 posts)A couple of years ago I thought i would grow up having the regular life pathway in society "Get married have kids etc"
But I came to the conclusion that I just dont want kids neither do I want a companion of any sort. I am happy single and childless
ProfessionalLeftist
(4,982 posts)I made that decision decades ago. None for me.
no_hypocrisy
(46,234 posts)No regrets about no children.
I've had older women admonish me, telling me I would be alone when I'm elderly. Have children so someone will take care of you they'd warn. One individual told me to go to a bar and steal some sperm to protect my Golden Years. (You can't make up this stuff, folks.)
While I've thought I would be a kick-ass aunt, my brother and sister both have not had their own children as well.
When I want my "fix" of children, I teach Sunday School. That's enough for me.
Lebam in LA
(1,345 posts)decided at age 18 she did not want children and never has. She has no regrets.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)and since mine was the easier of the two "permanent solutions" ... I "manned up" and took the step, instead of insisting SHE do it.
mythology
(9,527 posts)I have a host of potential medical proclivities in my family like several types of cancer, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, and male pattern baldness (okay that one's a little less serious). Also my dad is an emotionally and verbally abusive jackass and I worry that I have the potential to do that to a kid. It's bad enough that I have to worry I might do something similar to a potential partner who could at least tell me I'm being an ass and could tell me to take a hike.
But it helps that the women of the world also seem to agree that I shouldn't produce children.
sarge43
(28,946 posts)For several reasons
1. I never believe I'd be a good parent
2. Flat not interested
3. Didn't meet the man I wanted to marry until I was in my mid 30's. Single parenthood had no appeal
3. Back when women were automatically discharged from service for pregnancy. Motherhood vs. career, easy choice for me
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)One child, very happy about it. May adopt a second child later.
The scary thought is, if we opt out of the gene pool what is left? Mittens has how many children? How F'd up are all of them? How many F'd up people in the next generation because of them? We will be overrun with mindless rethugs if this is the path we follow. I have visions of zombie movies going around in my head....
We are Devo
(193 posts)I'm 48 and it's the best decision I ever made. I love sleeping in and traveling! I knew at about age 10 that I didn't want to be a mother.
CrispyQ
(36,539 posts)My cousins collected dolls. I collected trolls & stuffed animals. When we all played house together, they 'stayed home' while I went to my vet clinic & worked with my animals.
All my life, even into my late 20s when I was still single, I heard that someday I would meet a nice man & then I would want children. I met the nice man, but the kid thing didn't change. It would have been a deal breaker, too. There was no way I was going to have kids. I was not at all interested in having that level of commitment in my life. Now, 25 years later, no regrets. It just wasn't me.
My grandmother told me I was selfish. I see how badly so many people are at parenting & I think, they are the selfish ones - bringing a child into the world & not taking the time required to raise a decent human being. Then the rest of us have to deal with the little shit. That's selfish.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)I was still always told I would change my mind just because I'm female. I never have. In fact, I became even more adamant about it. Some people have even responded as though there was something mentally wrong with me. I will never understand that.
Grave Grumbler
(160 posts)We are Devo
(193 posts)roody
(10,849 posts)and I get my fill there. Life is truly a lark, but old age awaits.
avebury
(10,952 posts)When I look at what is happening in this country and the direction it is heading towards I am so glad that I never had children. I don't know why on earth anyone would choose to have children in this day in age.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Partly not being very good at relationships and therefore unable to get one started - and I always did feel as a woman of the 80s that I did not want any child unless I could support them by myself, and never had that confidence, plus my family would be very disappointed in single motherhood of the deliberate kind and I just don't want to put up with them (but I do approve if other people want to do it).
So it doesn't feel entirely like a choice but was a wise move and I love my nieces/nephews and was able to be more helpful in their upbringing than if I had my own kids to contend with.
Paladin
(28,277 posts)Like most folks, I know of far too many couples who should never, ever have decided to become parents.
Scout
(8,624 posts)never really wanted my own, but didn't do anything permanent until i was in my 40s.
my second husband never had children either, and didn't want any in the future, that was one thing that made him more attractive as a potential partner.
shanti
(21,675 posts)he's 52, and has never really wanted any kids. about 18 years ago, a girlfriend of his got pregnant, but she miscarried, and it was a boy. that was kind of sad, as my brother is the last of our line, so when bro goes, so does the family name. however, knowing my bro, who is rather a self-centered person with lots of issues, it's probably for the best. me and my sister more than made up for his lack - we both had four sons each!