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Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
1. This is news to anybody?
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:07 PM
Mar 2019

If you've never seen any of his stand up, maybe you wouldn't think of him as an asshole.
Granted, he's no Andrew Dice Clay, but he's still an asshole.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
2. What did Jeffries actually say?
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:11 PM
Mar 2019

I couldn’t sit through that self-serving hype for very long. The “innocent” fellow providing the commentary is a far-right activist in Australia who works for a website that idolizes Tommy Robinson so you’ll forgive me if I hesitate to take him at face value.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
3. The hidden camera essentially caught Jefferies trying to bait Yemini, by seeing if
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:23 PM
Mar 2019

he would do things like compare Muslims with dingoes. Yemini does seem to possess some rudimentary level of self-awareness, so he didn't take the bait. The idea that this is guy is allied with Jordan Peterson, and links at the end of this video were titled "The Truth about the Christchurch Mosque shooting" and "How Stupid is Antifa" tells me all I need to know about the guy.

unblock

(52,399 posts)
5. That's exactly it, he caught jefferies trying to bait him. So what?
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:34 PM
Mar 2019

I do get the vibe that jefferies can be an asshole at times, albeit a left-leaning one.

But Sasha baron cohen and Samantha bee have also done similar things. Call it undercover, or playing a character, but they're deliberately trying to get the interviewee comfortable with saying outlandish/bigoted things. It doesn't mean anything about what the interviewer thinks.

bullwinkle428

(20,631 posts)
10. I didn't mean to imply that Jefferies was doing anything wrong by attempting to bait, and it
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:10 AM
Mar 2019

definitely occurred to me after I had posted that Sacha Baron Cohen clearly has mastered that technique in his own interview segments.

It's obvious this Yemini guy is looking to take down someone on the left, like an Australian James O'Keefe.

Dr. Strange

(25,927 posts)
15. Well, he's making Islamaphobic jokes to bait him.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 08:42 PM
Mar 2019

And he's got a history of making these kinds of jokes:


unblock

(52,399 posts)
16. I don't know about jefferies. Like I said, he's probably an asshole.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 09:27 PM
Mar 2019

I'm just saying that the video from the right-winger who apparently failed to object to what jefferies was saying is not compelling evidence.

Jefferies was basically conducting a sting operation. There's no point in capturing a whole police sting on video and saying, hey, look, the police guy is advertising that he's got drugs and hookers available. Yes, duh, that's the point of the sting. You're supposed to know it's illegal and just say no.

Now, the police guy might well be a crook, but the video of him conducting a sting doesn't prove it at all.

More generally, sometimes it's hard to tell with comedians. They're all about pushing buttons and getting people to laugh, and one of the cheap ways to do that is by making taboo out over-the-top bigoted statements. Daniel tosh does this to the nth degree. I find it hard to believe he can come up with those jokes without actually being a bigot, but he clearly exaggerates those views for comic effect.

Separate question is, even if it's clearly a joke, is the telling of such jokes a problem anyway, which I think it is....

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
6. I fail to see the problem then.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:39 PM
Mar 2019

That’s what TV hosts do, they try to get people to make better television. This dickwad just wants to project his own racism onto Jefferies.

ornotna

(10,807 posts)
4. Avi yemini is a right winger
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:29 PM
Mar 2019
https://www.ajds.org.au/2018/06/avi-yemini-consorts-nazis/

Avi Yemini is a useful idiot in the endless soap opera that is Australia’s far-right melodrama.

Day in day out, attempting to carve out their own niche, the actors of the far right, make and abandon friends, cheat on and chastise each other, oscillate between righteousness and hypocrisy, have budding romances and disappointments. They are manipulated and they manipulate.

Quixote1818

(28,998 posts)
7. The guys answer to the one clip he did show of his words being changed is still racist but more
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:44 PM
Mar 2019

nuanced. It is disappointing they edit like that but I get the impression they guy in the interview is still a douchebag and deep down he probably is more like the guy who the edited clip ended up showing. That being said, I won't ever watch these shows the same again if they edit the way it shows.

As far as Jefferies not like Burkas, that isn't uncommon for liberals who see them historically used so men can control women. However, I doubt if Jefferies would want a law that requires Muslim women not to be able to wear them. So this fellow did a bit of creative editing himself.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,506 posts)
11. someone should be embarrassed...... but it ain't Jeffries. Since when
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:29 AM
Mar 2019

did it become accepted to post right wing bullshit here?

ornotna

(10,807 posts)
12. It's a head scratcher for sure
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:37 AM
Mar 2019

Next we'll be seeing James O'Keefe and Milo Yiannopolous videos here. Yippee!

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
13. Still a fan of Jim Jeffries and this tool hasn't changed my mind.
Sat Mar 23, 2019, 12:43 AM
Mar 2019

This interview uses the same tactics that TDS and others do to interview people who need very little prodding to bring out their questionable views. And when their views are exposed, they all cry about being a victim.

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