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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyone else feel completely let down?
I feel like the Mueller investigation is over and the maggot's been vindicated. I know that hasn't happened (at least not yet) but it is exactly how it feels to me.
greyl
(22,990 posts)There are sealed indictments, other prosecutors in many states, and we don't know what the Report says.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)Thank you. This is what I need to hear from my fellow DUers.
greyl
(22,990 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Keefer
(713 posts)former9thward
(32,097 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)They never existed outside of Twitter.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,900 posts)and Trump's behavior this past week has been unusually squirrelly, even for him - which at least suggests that he knows what's in it and that it isn't good for him. Anyhow, regardless of what's in it, there are many other investigations going on and they will continue.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I'm going to try to look at things just the way you are. Thank you.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)Control-Z
(15,682 posts)It feels like it won't say much. I hope I'm wrong.
uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... least this is the end if the beginning.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)i'm feeling pissed off at DU with this panic frenzy for no fucking reason
So you're pissed at me? Good. I hope you're right.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)you are part of DU
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Fed had to close the report to hand off to the state.
H2O Man
(73,637 posts)sarisataka
(18,821 posts)I never expected much out of it.
Nevermypresident
(781 posts)said she was told that there will be no further indictments (of anyone) from Mueller's investigation. (including sealed indictments).
What about Don Jr, Kushner , Corsi, friends of trump on inauguration committee, etc. etc. etc.???!!? This is very difficult for me to understand.
Trump's pp. already saying that this Mueller report is going to "clear the decks" for them for the 2020 campaign.
If this is true, sure, we can hope for New York State to bring indictments etc., but, if so, how many years from now? 2 years, 6 years??
Constitution, what constitution?
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I'm hating everything I'm hearing on the news. Ugh.
Lars39
(26,117 posts)uponit7771
(90,367 posts)... Mueller would be Mueller shut the investigation down because Barr or Red Don told him to or didn't go into areas because he was told to.
Nevermypresident
(781 posts)Lars39
(26,117 posts)and there are still investigations going on.
Nevermypresident
(781 posts)and be removed from office - I have to disagree with your "This is just the beginning".
However, if you are of the ilk that you believe one day, after leaving office, he will face the consequences of his lifetime of dirty dealing, lying, possibly moneylaundering, etc. and that's what you believe by saying "This is just the beginning"...well, there's always hope.
However, the chances of trump being removed from office before 2020 and not running for president in 2020 have diminished considerably. IMO...this is more like the ending...not any beginning.
You can believe I'm being a debbie downer. That's fine.
However, IMO, I'm calling it like I see it.
Lars39
(26,117 posts)Evidence has to be laid out, etc. Were lucky things have moved along this quickly.
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)Barr is in the spotlight now. Can't trust that POS.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)nolabear
(41,999 posts)And if you have to have the sun and only get the moon youll never be anything but hopeless.
BigDemVoter
(4,157 posts)bluestarone
(17,067 posts)I will not jump to conclusions! Keep the faith. We WILL remove this walking piece of shit!
donkeypoofed
(2,187 posts)What is happening right now.....
Codeine
(25,586 posts)The man is a human turd
pwb
(11,294 posts).
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)All these its not over yet fly in the face of reality. Its over.
What Im seeing here is the bargaining stage of the five stages of death. We may as well move on to acceptance. Not saying Trump isnt guilty as sin, but hes managed to skate on this one.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I never did have a lot of faith that Mueller was going to turn up anything on Trump and his family, and I still feel like the bastard and his accomplices are going to get away with everything. I hope we are wrong.
sheshe2
(83,955 posts)Read here. Read the whole tweet thread from Seth Abramson.
Here is one part.
Link to tweet
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11943375
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
bdamomma
(63,931 posts)sheshe2
This is not wrapped up yet. Far from it.
sheshe2
(83,955 posts)LincolnRossiter
(560 posts)But that will be the practical effect.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)but I my expectations were less than zero. I understand that others may have had higher hopes, but that generally isn't the way it all works out.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,219 posts)The report will say a lot that we don't know even now, whether it is good or bad.
Wait for the report.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)All this talk about Don Jr in cuffs and mountains of sealed indictments and the endless proclamations of HES GOING DOWN! were always delusional fantasy, fed by fantastists on Twitter creating facts from whole cloth.
The fault doesnt lie with the Special Counsel, or with his report. The fault lies with people confusing speculation with news, and happy talk with fact.
Trump will be with us until we beat him in 2020 or until he serves out his second term (barring a coronary, naturally.) No criminal indictments, impeachment, or 25th Amendment procedure will save us from not doing our job.