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Is it no accident that wing nuts vehemently object to each and every one of these notions? (Original Post) MrScorpio Mar 2019 OP
I hesitate asking this question ScratchCat Mar 2019 #1
It's no accident that the LGBT community has adopted the rainbow as their symbol MrScorpio Mar 2019 #2
I was told it had to do with Judy Garland. So, it goes much deeper then. CaptYossarian Mar 2019 #3
Your information is decades out of date irisblue Mar 2019 #7
Thanks for the update. CaptYossarian Mar 2019 #11
Spectrum as in a wide range of various colors,... Wounded Bear Mar 2019 #4
Male, female, and everything in-between. mwooldri Mar 2019 #5
But, But, one must be stoned to listen to Alex Jones juxtaposed Mar 2019 #6
No. Being stoned makes it harder to listen to the turd. Maybe being drunk makes it easier. Dunno. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2019 #8
I Don't Know Whether To Laugh Or Cry DallasNE Mar 2019 #9
Agree with all but the "Sex & Gender" one CTAtheist Mar 2019 #10
Gender is not. There are only 4: male, female, hermaphrodite, and eunuch. ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #13
Incorrect. CTAtheist Mar 2019 #14
lol I can assume you aren't a medical doctor, then ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #15
I'm fully aware of what Hermaphroditism is CTAtheist Mar 2019 #17
whatever, dude ProfessorPlum Mar 2019 #19
Biology is anything but simple. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #16
Oh, absolutely not. CTAtheist Mar 2019 #18
K&R ck4829 Mar 2019 #12

ScratchCat

(2,002 posts)
1. I hesitate asking this question
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 12:38 PM
Mar 2019

But I will do it any way.

"Sex & gender are spectrums" - what is that supposed to mean? I have never heard that phrase.

irisblue

(33,037 posts)
7. Your information is decades out of date
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 02:48 PM
Mar 2019

::this is not a personal criticism of you::
Very very brief history
>>Garland died in London, June 22, 1969.
>>Stonewall Uprising/Riot-NYC June 28-July1, 1969. Fun facts, Trans Gender Women, Butch Lesbians, Effeminate Men, Hookers, Homeless Youth and Drag Queens kicked the NYPD asses out. Police had gotten used to raiding & arresting patrons of Gay Bars
>>Gilbert Baker, SF 1978, created, with others for the GayFreedomDay Parade.


So while Garlands death in London, and the previous decades long history of police brutality & arrests, combined are a starting point for LGTBQ+ political &social movements, it was a factor leading to the next decade of increasing activities.

And there is no way I can succiently explain the Rainbow Flags' impact on the AIDs Quilts.



Wounded Bear

(58,743 posts)
4. Spectrum as in a wide range of various colors,...
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 01:42 PM
Mar 2019

rather than the black/white definition that RW assholes demand everybody think in.

Yes, rainbows.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
5. Male, female, and everything in-between.
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 02:41 PM
Mar 2019

Example: biologically I'm male, but my brain isn't fully "male". A lot of the time it thinks "female" so I've been confused about my gender. Add to that with society reinforcing its mixed signals by addressing me as female when they hear me on the phone and until recently that was nearly every day (as I used to work in a call centre). So some time ago I've said F-it and just go with the notion that I'm a human and for me a specific gender isn't so important anymore in my identity. I'm both male and female in my head, but I'm in a male body... which sometimes drives me nuts. I guess the term "gender fluid" comes to mind.

 

CTAtheist

(88 posts)
10. Agree with all but the "Sex & Gender" one
Fri Mar 22, 2019, 09:42 PM
Mar 2019

By "sex" I think he meant "sexual identity" and just wrote "sex" for short. And yes, sexual identity is a spectrum.

Gender is not. There are only 4: male, female, hermaphrodite, and eunuch.

It should have read "Sexual identity is a spectrum" and it would have been fine and avoided that nit.

ProfessorPlum

(11,279 posts)
13. Gender is not. There are only 4: male, female, hermaphrodite, and eunuch.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 10:35 AM
Mar 2019

who died and made anyone the arbiter of that? I would argue that there is indeed a spectrum from male to female, including all the different types of hermaphrodism.

 

CTAtheist

(88 posts)
14. Incorrect.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 11:04 AM
Mar 2019

This is simple biology.

1: no penises or vaginas
2: only penises, no vaginas
3: only vaginas, no penises
4: both penises and vaginas

There are only 4 genders.

Sexual identity, however, is a spectrum. Totally agree there.

ProfessorPlum

(11,279 posts)
15. lol I can assume you aren't a medical doctor, then
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 02:48 PM
Mar 2019

you ought to read up on hermaphrodism sometime, and all the forms it can take. You'd be amazed.

 

CTAtheist

(88 posts)
17. I'm fully aware of what Hermaphroditism is
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:02 PM
Mar 2019

And it's still a mix of male and female.

"True hermaphroditism, clinically known as ovotesticular disorder of sex development, is a medical term for an intersex condition in which an individual is born with ovarian and testicular tissue. More commonly one or both gonads is an ovotestis containing both types of tissue."

10% male, 90% female is exactly the same as 90% female, 10% male. Your gender is 'hermaphrodite'. Period.

This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with your sexual identity, which is completely unique for each person.

 

CTAtheist

(88 posts)
18. Oh, absolutely not.
Sun Mar 24, 2019, 04:03 PM
Mar 2019

Sexuality is much more than genitalia.

Gender is not. It's literally your genitalia.

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