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During active shooter drill, four teachers at a time were taken into a room, told to crouch down and were shot execution style with some sort of projectiles - resulting in injuries to the extent that welts appeared, and blood was drawn.
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The teachers were terrified, but were told not to tell anyone what happened. Teachers waiting outside that heard the screaming were brought into the room four at a time and the shooting process was repeated.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,109 posts)Teachers have to go through enough SHIT without having to be traumatized by idiots.
Miguel M
(234 posts)Jesus Christ on a pogo stick. What next? What has this nation become?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)We will do anything - and that means anything, including shooting teachers - rather than regulate firearms.
SWBTATTReg
(22,156 posts)an active shooter scenario. What benefit is derived from this type of play acting scenario? Good grief.
Blues Heron
(5,939 posts)so utterly utterly dumb. You don't shoot anybody ever unless the intent is to harm.
enough
(13,262 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)after a career in education, but this takes the cake!
MissB
(15,812 posts)Way to create a group of traumatized teachers.
packman
(16,296 posts)Sue the idiots that thought of this "learning" experience.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Generic Other
(28,979 posts)"The White County sheriff said Thursday that his department has conducted similar training before but, after receiving a complaint, will no longer use the air-powered device, called an airsoft gun, with teachers.
Teachers at Meadowlawn Elementary School were supposed to be receiving what is called ALICE training, an "options-based" approach that encourages students and teachers to be proactive in their response to an active shooter and teaches tactics that include rushing a shooter in some situations.
Thousands of schools across the country, including many in Indiana, are using ALICE already. Shooting teachers with plastic pellets is not typically part of the training.
'This is not normal practice'"
I feel like I fell down the rabbithole!
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,400 posts)MissB
(15,812 posts)What to expect when a shooter brings you into a room?
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)and kick the crap out of them. I would certainly have been sorely tempted.
DBoon
(22,395 posts)let them know they are expendable in case they get ideas otherwise
But even non-public employees are expendable; it's why we don't have healthcare as a basic human right in this country.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,400 posts)It's the enhanced user experience brought to you by wingnuts, incorporated!
Turbineguy
(37,364 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)When I opened this topic I assumed it was a GD metaphor.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)It really defies belief. I wonder if it was Betsy De Vos' idea?
struggle4progress
(118,330 posts)Arika Herron, Indianapolis Star
Published 9:22 a.m. ET March 21, 2019
Updated 2:55 p.m. ET March 21, 2019
An active-shooter training exercise at an Indiana elementary school in January left teachers with welts, bruises and abrasions after they were shot with plastic pellets by the local sheriffs office conducting the session.
The incident, acknowledged in testimony this week before state lawmakers, was confirmed by two elementary school teachers in Monticello, who described an exercise in which teachers were asked by local law enforcement to kneel down against a classroom wall before being sprayed across their backs with plastic pellets without warning.
They told us, This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing, said one of the two teachers, both of whom asked IndyStar not to be identified out of concern for their jobs. They shot all of us across our backs. I was hit four times.
It hurt so bad ...
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/active-shooter-training-for-schools-teachers-shot-with-plastic-pellets/3231103002/
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)execution style. G-damn.
struggle4progress
(118,330 posts)struggle4progress
(118,330 posts)BY JUSTIN WISE - 03/21/19 11:37 AM EDT
... The Indiana State Teachers Association (ISTA) is now calling for this exercise to stop. Gail Zeheralis, director of government relations for the ISTA, asked lawmakers on Wednesday to alter language to a House bill that makes various changes to the Indiana safe schools grant program.
What we're looking for is just a simple statement in this bill that would prohibit the shooting of some type of projectile at staff in an active shooter drill, Zeheralis said in her testimony ...
The Star notes that Meadowlawn Elementary School teachers in January were intended to go through an exercise that calls for individuals to be proactive while responding to a shooter. Shooting teachers with pellet guns is not usually a part of the training, the Star reported.
Barbara Deardorff, an ISTA official, told the newspaper that she had never heard of teachers being shot with pellets during the exercise before the incident at Meadowlawn ...
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/435100-indiana-teachers-were-shot-repeatedly-with-airsoft-guns-in-active
struggle4progress
(118,330 posts)By Madeline Will on March 21, 2019 2:07 PM
... Many school-safety consultants who work with districts pan efforts to make drills "more realistic." Some local law enforcement have used sounds of simulated gunfire, fake blood, and weapons. In some cases, those simulations involved students.
Some safety researchers and school psychologists have said those types of drills unnecessarily traumatize children and may actually make them less safe if they act dramatically in a real crisis situation. Outspoken school-safety consultant Kenneth Trump says ALICE training is not supported by evidence and "preys on the emotions of today's active shooter frenzy that is spreading across the nation" ...
http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/teacherbeat/2019/03/indiana_teachers_active_shooter_drills.html
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)And they kept coming in? I'd have told whoever was running that drill to piss off!
Whose idea was this, anyhow?
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)encourages students and teachers to be proactive in their response to an active shooter and teaches tactics that include rushing a shooter in some situations.
Thousands of schools across the country, including many in Indiana, are using ALICE already. Shooting teachers with plastic pellets is not typically part of the training.
struggle4progress
(118,330 posts)STEPHANIE MENCIMER
SEPTEMBER 5, 2014 2:58 PM
... Active shooter drills have become the norm in many school districts and downtown office buildings; in many schools, such drills are now mandated by the state. But it turns out that bringing SWAT teams into buildings to simulate an active shooter situation doesnt always make people feel safer. In fact, according to the Wall Street Journal, such simulations have seriously traumatized and occasionally injured people, sparking a wave of lawsuits ...
... One involves a Colorado nursing home employee whom a man forced at gunpoint into an empty room at work. The shooter was actually a local cop and the gun was fake, but the nurse was so scared that even when the shooter finally identified himself as a cop after she started crying and begging for her life, she wasnt really sure he was telling the truth. She was so traumatized that she had to quit her job and has since filed a lawsuit against the nursing home.
Active shooter drills often feature scary looking shooters with realistic looking guns who shoot plastic bullets or blanks at participants, who are then supposed to attack the shooter or at least throw things at him. But apparently, far from creating an army of first responders, these drills often leave teachers and other participants hysterical. Critics told the Journal that the exercises have left school employees and others more terrified and ill-equipped to deal with a real shooting than they would have been otherwise ...
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/09/active-shooter-drills-lawsuits/
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)Worst idea EVER.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,400 posts)struggle4progress
(118,330 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,400 posts)First plastic bullet that makes contact, you turn and nail the perp in the gut and a second punch on the way down.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)My GOD. The world has gone feral.