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allgood33

(1,584 posts)
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:02 PM Mar 2019

Is the Trump administration paying to have caravans come here to try to prove we need a wall?

What else really explains the exploding numbers of immigrants since Trump has been President? It's almost like his Presidency has made the situation worse by far. It just doesn't make sense.

It should be a great talking point against him if there were someone to Primary him. Trump has only brought more immigrants into the country or to our borders.

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Is the Trump administration paying to have caravans come here to try to prove we need a wall? (Original Post) allgood33 Mar 2019 OP
The leaders of Brazil and others in cahoots? Chin music Mar 2019 #1
Exactly... why would so many want to come here in record numbers knowing they are so hated? PeeJ52 Mar 2019 #2
Actually, he'd "promise" to pay them Blue Owl Mar 2019 #3
follow the money, always a trail beachbum bob Mar 2019 #4
It's actually the other way around. Scoopster Mar 2019 #5
I think last year's pre-election caravan was created by someone nefarious Rstrstx Mar 2019 #6
What exploding numbers of immigrants? we can do it Mar 2019 #7
Civil Wars, Violence and Natural Disasters hitting several places. nt chowder66 Mar 2019 #8

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
1. The leaders of Brazil and others in cahoots?
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:06 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Wed Mar 20, 2019, 04:38 PM - Edit history (1)

Easy to arrange for negative stuff, much harder, to create stability and peace.
Especially when he meets in private. Why private all the time unless w the Europeans who won't do it?

 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
2. Exactly... why would so many want to come here in record numbers knowing they are so hated?
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:06 PM
Mar 2019

It doesn't make sense. They must be making money. If not, it's one hell of a conspiracy theory. Too bad we don't have a Faux Noise to spread it for us.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
5. It's actually the other way around.
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:18 PM
Mar 2019

This administration has eliminated funding for aid that was being supplied to people in Central & South American conflict areas as well as refused to properly staff the State Department, which has the end result of plunging people living in those areas into greater peril. They then flee & end up coming to the US seeking a better life, and are then treated like shit by us & used as the excuse they need for justifying the wall.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
6. I think last year's pre-election caravan was created by someone nefarious
Wed Mar 20, 2019, 03:23 PM
Mar 2019

Its timing was just toooooo convenient to be a coincidence. They usually do caravans from Central America in the spring and they're usually run by several groups that work with migrants.

But this past fall nobody seemed to know who had organized the caravan, it's like it just magically started out of thin air, and every effort was made to draw attention to it. I would imagine it's pretty hard to just make this happen without leaving a trace, but two organizations that could pull some something off like that without leaving clues would be the CIA or its Russian equivalent.

These caravans have been happening for years and people who try and go it alone are taking a huge risk, especially if they go up through Tamaulipas. A few weeks ago it was reported that Central Americans on buses from Tamaulipas up to the border were being pulled over and taken off the bus and then no further mention is made of them. It sounds like what happened in 2010.

Once the election was over last year the media in the US completely forgot about the caravans but the story continued on for several months in Mexico, where many Mexicans were getting lots of overhyped stories from (where else) Facebook.

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