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How did we end up with this monster? Hope this doesn't portend our end as a democracy. (Original Post) triron Mar 2019 OP
Rock bottom? UTUSN Mar 2019 #1
It could b e the end... 2naSalit Mar 2019 #2
From the article Different Drummer Mar 2019 #3
There are more of us. Don't give in to despair. Delmette2.0 Mar 2019 #4
The largest irony is that the worlds first true Democracy is not really a democracy! GulfCoast66 Mar 2019 #5
Um, sorry trev Mar 2019 #6
Here's how we ended up with this monster maxrandb Mar 2019 #7

2naSalit

(86,775 posts)
2. It could b e the end...
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 08:33 PM
Mar 2019

But I would defer to those who know the whole story.

I think that it will be worked out in ways which surprise us all but also satify our need for justice.

Different Drummer

(7,641 posts)
3. From the article
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 08:43 PM
Mar 2019

"Of course, entertainment programming mocking newsworthy figures is protected as free speech. Trump seems to be referring to the “equal time rule” which mandates that U.S. broadcast TV stations give equal air-time opportunities to opposing political candidates in prime-time if requested. But Trump is president, not a candidate, and SNL is in late-night and, again, parody. There’s also FCC’s “fairness doctrine,” a regulation that required networks to give balanced coverage to matters of public controversy. The FCC eliminated the policy in 1987."

Trump just needs to get over his obsession with SNL and go on about his merry way and the media needs to stop paying attention to the Twitter tantrums.

Delmette2.0

(4,169 posts)
4. There are more of us. Don't give in to despair.
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 09:14 PM
Mar 2019

We have Mueller and a Democrat controlled House. It may take a long time to put things back to right, but we can do it

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. The largest irony is that the worlds first true Democracy is not really a democracy!
Sun Mar 17, 2019, 11:33 PM
Mar 2019

Only the House of Representatives is real democracy.

The Presidential vote can and does elect a president who actually loses the total vote count because of the States being considered sovereign.

Same with the Senate where liberals are truly screwed. Alabama will always equal New York.

We will not change the presidency nor Senate rules any time soon. It would take a constitutional amendment. But there is one thing we can do...

Increase the size of the House of Representatives. It was frozen to limit he power of urban areas. If the House had 800 members, not much higher than even Germany with 80 million residents, it would better reflect our population.

And it does not require an amendment. Just a law.



maxrandb

(15,349 posts)
7. Here's how we ended up with this monster
Mon Mar 18, 2019, 06:54 AM
Mar 2019

Well, you see...

President Obama didn't fix all of America's problems within a week of taking office, and even had to gall to not deliver ponies as demanded.

We decided that the way to make America "more progressive" was to sit out the 2010 Mid-term election (A CENSUS YEAR), and allow unhinged racists with tri-corner hats and Medicare provided "My Scooters", and screaming like banshees for 14 months about getting "gubmint out of my Medicare", to take over 65% of all State Legislatures and Governorships, as well as a majority of the Federal Government House and Senate.

Then, we sat back as a racist fucking orange circus clown spent the next 14 months demanding to see the first African American President's Birth Certificate. We never showed up to protest at the studios of ...NOT ONE SINGLE one of the 1,500 Hate Radio stations, (MANY BASED ENTIRELY WITHIN THE CONFINE OF 80-20 BLUE TO RED CITIES), who spewed racist birther shit 24/7.

Then, it became perfectly normal for CBS, NBC, ABC, the NY Times, the WA Post, and of course Faux News to present the entire racist birther shit as nothing more than a "he said-she said" issue.

Then we gleefully watched "Game of Thrones" and wondered how people could allow such a fucked up...but totally entertaining...leadership structure take hold in Westoros.

Then we got busy with our kids and our lives as our newly empowered T-baggers drew state and federal congressional districts that looked like a sheep fucking a housecat...we expressed a little bit of concern when all of these "snake swallowing a shriveled penis" districts ensured our new overlords could win 45% of a states voters, while getting 86% of its representation...coincidental of course.

Then we nominated a fantastic candidate, and one that was probably the most qualified ever to serve as President, but all anyone wanted to talk about was some "scandal" about some "email" bullshit...except for some of "us"...who preferred talking about how "our wonderful, started from nothing and worked her ass off to get where she was, truly historic candidate, was just EXACTLY THE SAME as an orange colored, racist freak-show, carnival barking, used-car-powered-by-snake-oil selling and serial unwanted pussy-grabbing moron".

Then, just to ensure we went completely through the Looking Glass and were using the broken shards to slit out wrists, we enabled the party of the "orange colored, racist freak-show, carnival barking, used car, snake oil selling and serial unwanted pussy-grabbing moron", to be the only check on his power.

There's something in there about some Russians doing some shit, but truly...THIS SHIT SHOW IS ALL OURS.

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