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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,170 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:36 PM Mar 2019

Boeing to upgrade stall prevention on 737 MAX: sources

Boeing in the next 10 days will roll out an upgrade to the MCAS stall prevention system for 737 MAX aircraft that have had two deadly accidents in recent months, two industry sources told AFP.

The system was implicated in the crash of a 737 MAX 8 in Indonesia in October but the sources cautioned that the cause of the fatal Ethiopia Airlines accident last weekend has not yet been determined.

The software fix, which was already underway prior to the latest incident, will only take about two hours to install, said the sources, who asked not to be identified.

The MAX aircraft have been grounded worldwide in the wake of Sunday's crash near Addis Ababa that killed 157 passengers and crew, and Boeing has halted deliveries of its top-selling model.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boeing-to-upgrade-stall-prevention-on-737-max-sources/ar-BBUPcMh?li=BBnbcA1

Hope this works. One wonders how long they knew about the software glitch.

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Boeing to upgrade stall prevention on 737 MAX: sources (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
A fix they THINK will solve the problem. MineralMan Mar 2019 #1
Check out this video by Mentour Pilot PJMcK Mar 2019 #6
Here is his newest video. SeattleVet Mar 2019 #10
Thanks, Vet PJMcK Mar 2019 #11
You're very welcome. SeattleVet Mar 2019 #12
Do we know how intermittent it is? JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2019 #8
seems like pilots could take off manually and avoid the issue nt msongs Mar 2019 #2
I think many were. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 #4
An "upgrade" to the MCAS stall prevention system - the software "FIX" - already underway??? asiliveandbreathe Mar 2019 #3
I certainly don't believe MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #5
If it can be ready that soon it proves the 5 week government shutdown caused those pasaengers to die Tom Rinaldo Mar 2019 #7
Did trump and the CEO know before the crashes they had a serious problem? duforsure Mar 2019 #9

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
1. A fix they THINK will solve the problem.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:50 PM
Mar 2019

Sadly, it's one of those things that can only be tested by lots and lots of pilots flying lots and lots of planes.

Since it appears to be an intermittent issue, how will they know they've actually fixed it?

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
6. Check out this video by Mentour Pilot
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:37 PM
Mar 2019

I'm a bit of an amateur aviation enthusiast and this European pilot who flies 737s has an interesting series of videos describing many different aspects of the aviation industry. He posted this shortly after the Lion Air crash last Fall and I haven't seen anything about this latest accident.

Nonetheless, I think you'll find it informative:

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SeattleVet

(5,478 posts)
10. Here is his newest video.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:13 PM
Mar 2019

He goes into a good amount of detail about the system and why it is needed.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
11. Thanks, Vet
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:16 PM
Mar 2019

I saw it a little while after I posted. This damn internet is too hard and fast to keep up with!

Have a good weekend.

SeattleVet

(5,478 posts)
12. You're very welcome.
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:35 PM
Mar 2019

I've been following Mentour for a while, and had just seen the video a few minutes before I read your message.

He always does a very good job of explaining technical aviation subjects in a very simple yet non-condescending manner.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,363 posts)
8. Do we know how intermittent it is?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:54 PM
Mar 2019

Do airlines report each incident where pilots turned off the auto-pilot or auto-stall-control, then completed the flight without further incident?

If Boeing has a good "baseline" of incident history, it shouldn't take long to show improvement (or lack of improvement).

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. An "upgrade" to the MCAS stall prevention system - the software "FIX" - already underway???
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:12 PM
Mar 2019

Upgrade in the next ten days will "roll out" - I haven't flown since 911..I'm not going to start now...this article sure doesn't make me feel safe...the damn "fix" , a bandaid??? - me thinks the whole thing needs to be put in the scrap heap and a NEW design created...

Upgrade, ten days - FIX - nope..IMHO

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
5. I certainly don't believe
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:35 PM
Mar 2019

that Boeing would intentionally put anybody at risk intentionally. I understand their desire to "not look bad" in all of this, but I don't think they are criminally responsible for these incidents.
I also understand the the modern plane is a very complex machine - far beyond what was flown as recently as 20 years ago - and the training involved in flying them - YOI!
I do find it a bit discomforting to hear that perhaps pilot concerns were ignored or neglected. THAT is a serious issue if it is to be believed. I would be interested in hearing what the pilots' association (union, group, etc.?) has to say about their reactions to the plane and the history of issues.
I'm sorry for the loss of lives. Such things happen as we continue to evolve and make progress with technology in our world.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
7. If it can be ready that soon it proves the 5 week government shutdown caused those pasaengers to die
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:38 PM
Mar 2019

Or at the very least it proves those deaths may have been preventable. All work stalled on that software fix while our government was shut down.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
9. Did trump and the CEO know before the crashes they had a serious problem?
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 04:59 PM
Mar 2019

And tried to hide it all along? I see many lawsuits coming.

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