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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,170 posts)
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 03:03 PM Mar 2019

Boeing is haunted by a 50-year-old feature of 737 jets

A set of stairs may have never caused so much trouble in an aircraft.

First introduced in West Germany as a short-hop commuter jet in the early Cold War, the Boeing 737-100 had folding metal stairs attached to the fuselage that passengers climbed to board before airports had jetways. Ground crews hand-lifted heavy luggage into the cargo holds in those days, long before motorized belt loaders were widely available.

That low-to-the-ground design was a plus in 1968, but it has proved to be a constraint that engineers modernizing the 737 have had to work around ever since. The compromises required to push forward a more fuel-efficient version of the plane - with larger engines and altered aerodynamics - led to the complex flight control software system that is now under investigation in two fatal crashes over the last five months.

Boeing's problems deepened Thursday, when the company announced it was stopping delivery of the aircraft after the Federal Aviation Administration's decision Wednesday to ground the aircraft.

"We continue to build 737 Max airplanes, while assessing how the situation, including potential capacity constraints, will impact our production system," the Chicago company said in a statement.

The crisis comes after 50 years of remarkable success in making the 737 a profitable workhorse. Today, the aerospace giant has a massive backlog of more than 4,700 orders for the jetliner and its sales account for nearly a third of Boeing's profit.

But the decision to continue modernizing the jet, rather than starting at some point with a clean design, resulted in engineering challenges that created unforeseen risks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/news/boeing-is-haunted-by-a-50-year-old-feature-of-737-jets/ar-BBUOl5M?li=BBnb7Kz

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Boeing is haunted by a 50-year-old feature of 737 jets (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
737 'hamster mouth' dalton99a Mar 2019 #1
Beautiful... Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #3
Well, that is just stupid UpInArms Mar 2019 #2
I didn't want to believe it, but this could be the beginning of the end of the 737 Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #4
Not Likely PuppyBismark Mar 2019 #5
Emirates just brought the A380. Back from the brink JCMach1 Mar 2019 #6
Wrong, those were previous orders that they just exercised PuppyBismark Mar 2019 #7

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. I didn't want to believe it, but this could be the beginning of the end of the 737
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 05:44 PM
Mar 2019

and if it is, then the 747 will be the last of the Golden Age legacy airframes to still be in new production (technically)...

The fact of the matter is there literally isn't ONE iota of evolution to squeeze out of this airframe without being prohibitively expensive...

PuppyBismark

(595 posts)
5. Not Likely
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:59 PM
Mar 2019

There are about 4,000 orders for new 737's. If you think the airlines buy them because of loyalty, you are mistaken. Airlines are very cost and safety oriented. Likewise, there is extreme competition between Boeing and Air Bus. I suspect there are very few parts in common between the current 737's and the original 737.

The 747 is no longer sold as a passenger airplane and the Air Bus A380, will be going out of production in a few years as there have not been any new orders for it. It is an economic issue, 4 engine airplanes just use too much fuel.

PuppyBismark

(595 posts)
7. Wrong, those were previous orders that they just exercised
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 12:47 AM
Mar 2019

The production line will be closed in a few years.

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