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JoeOtterbein

(7,702 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:27 PM Mar 2019

Would a Mob Boss as POTUS be Impeachable? Where is Our Red Line? I Respectfully Ask Your Thoughts:

At what point do we US citizens, who consistently, constantly and clearly express our care on these DU pages about our nation and the person who occupies that most powerful position on our dear Earth, exactly decide to demand our leaders impeach Trump?

Before, or after, it is too late?

These questions are haunting me.

Please let me know what my fellow Democrats think/feel.

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Would a Mob Boss as POTUS be Impeachable? Where is Our Red Line? I Respectfully Ask Your Thoughts: (Original Post) JoeOtterbein Mar 2019 OP
Here's the thing for me radical noodle Mar 2019 #1
Thank you for your thoughts! JoeOtterbein Mar 2019 #2
The country is divided. marylandblue Mar 2019 #3
Thanks! JoeOtterbein Mar 2019 #5
There is a point 2naSalit Mar 2019 #4
Thanks! JoeOtterbein Mar 2019 #6
The timing being essential 2naSalit Mar 2019 #11
There isn't a red line. Anything goes. This country--my country, ecstatic Mar 2019 #7
Thanks! JoeOtterbein Mar 2019 #9
I see one of tRUMPS biggest re-election battle cry will be bluestarone Mar 2019 #8
Thanks! JoeOtterbein Mar 2019 #10

radical noodle

(8,012 posts)
1. Here's the thing for me
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:43 PM
Mar 2019

Impeachment is too good for trump. He deserves much, much worse. I want the investigations to continue and to uncover every filthy crime he's committed. I want to see the trumps stripped of their wealth, privilege, and freedom.

What is going on now with the investigations are the prelims to impeachment. It would be a terrible thing to impeach without convicting him and right now there is no way to convict.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
3. The country is divided.
Thu Mar 14, 2019, 11:50 PM
Mar 2019

As long as 40% of the people emphatically do not want to impeach Trump, if they will vote their Republican Senators out if and only if they convict Trump, what good will our demands do?

2naSalit

(86,771 posts)
4. There is a point
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 AM
Mar 2019

as mentioned above, where impeachment cannot be achieved to effective result which would be removal from office. But there is an underlying situation that we are not able to see, or at least very clearly at this time. That would be what the Mueller investigation will actually do.

I suspect that in a short period of time, what we will see of any report might not be forthcoming as we would like. I think, though, we will see what we caught a glimpse of yesterday after Manfort's second sentencing... and that was near instant unsealing of multiple indictments of serious crimes at the state level. This is why State's rights can be a good thing, though it is arguable in many cases, because nobody but the governors of those states can pardon anyone. No federal government intervention regarding pardons.

What does need to come out will in a, probably, prescribed timing such that we don't end up with a revolt and all will see the corruption for what it is. I hope it means the removal of the guilty, and I think it might be a few perp-walks and some "escorted" events. It could be much more than what we have anticipated within a report per se.

I suspect that certain Democratic leaders are hip to how this is going down and are trying to keep everybody calm until the time comes... and I hope it's by midsummer. The hearings are helping with that for now, in many ways.

2naSalit

(86,771 posts)
11. The timing being essential
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 11:48 AM
Mar 2019

to our NOT ending up with an empowered Pence, I think he'll be indicted to in one case or another, but we might end up with a President Pelosi if only for a brief time before the elections. What would be best is if the criminals in the Senate were indicted before the middle of the election season to give the Rs a proper amount of time to find acceptable candidate, whether or not they could actually win.

ecstatic

(32,729 posts)
7. There isn't a red line. Anything goes. This country--my country,
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:44 AM
Mar 2019

has truly broken my heart. I'm so ashamed and embarrassed by the cruelty and corruption of this regime.

bluestarone

(17,025 posts)
8. I see one of tRUMPS biggest re-election battle cry will be
Fri Mar 15, 2019, 10:47 AM
Mar 2019

Vote for me because they want to impeach me! Then they want to put me in prison! So decisions have to be made how best to proceed! I say wait for the Mueller report THEN decide! His base is very scary group of MORONS!

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