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According to charging documents, actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are among those involved facing charges.
The suspects allegedly paid bribes of up to $6 million to get their kids into elite colleges, including Yale, Stanford, Georgetown and USC.
In most cases, the students did not know their admission was contingent on a bribe.
University athletic coaches and administrators of college entrance exams were also among those arrested.
The alleged scam centered around a man in California who ran a business helping students get into the college of their choice.
Authorities say parents would pay him a predetermined amount, with full knowledge of what they were doing. He would then steer the money to one of two places: either an SAT or ACT administrator, or a college athletic coach.
https://abc7chicago.com/actresses-ceos-charged-in-alleged-college-admissions-scam/5186103/
atreides1
(16,093 posts)Just when you think it can't get any stranger...
TheBlackAdder
(28,214 posts).
Check out the crazy 700 Club interview, where her husband is Mossimo and has a clothing line at Target.
http://www1.cbn.com/700club/actress-lori-loughlin-balancing-family-faith-and-career
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Coventina
(27,172 posts)We are open access!
blogslut
(38,016 posts)Today is weird and also bad.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)Apparently, its an old story, though, and people do this all the time, but Im so awfully happy they got BUSTED
Cheaters liars thieves - for SHAME, and ADIOS
mitch96
(13,924 posts)Well so much for the goody goody Hallmark channel actress and the other one is REALLY a desperate housewife now!!
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Caliman73
(11,744 posts)George W Bush could not get into the University of Texas, but he got into Yale. Jared Kutschner got into an elite university right after his parents made a 2.5 million dollar donation. Bush got into University of Pennsylvania despite his being a complete idiot.
EleanorR
(2,395 posts)Typically they pay $5,000-$10,000 and up for someone to coach their child in things like class choices, extracurriculars, and essay writing and to help with college choices and applications. Test help is extra.
Wow. Nothing like that around here, but we're in a not-affluent small town where making 50k a year is upper income.
EleanorR
(2,395 posts)Certainly seems like a thing.
Bettie
(16,126 posts)do that!
But, I trust my kids to figure it out.
underpants
(182,883 posts)Amazing
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Duppers
(28,127 posts)My kid got into very good universities with hard work. Hubs and I put a high priority on his studying and grades and were lucky in that he had a free STEM school within busing distance his 11th & 12th grades. He took college level classes there. Our county's school district was rated in the top 100 schools systems in the country and we were happy to pay our higher taxes.
Paying for privileges? Won't the kids' lack of knowledge show up later in the world? A workd which usually judges you by your knowledge, brain power, and skills.
But then again, look where it's gotten tRump.
How the F did colleges/universities get this corrupted??!!
Underfunding?
BBG
(2,550 posts)Its like a marketing gig but for an individual as a product. For the individual to be best prepared and best marketed to colleges at application time.
EleanorR
(2,395 posts)I think they used to help prepare kids, payed attention to their coursework, helped with applications, but I think with cuts to education funding guidance counselors have been cut. And of course getting into college became more and more competitive and many schools have had more applicants because of the ease of using the Common App.
BBG
(2,550 posts)All about privatization. Take whats a legitimate function in the public space and do away with it. Opens up the function to private enterprise and eventual exploitation like we see in this article.
underpants
(182,883 posts)Schools market the hell out of themselves these days. They often come after the student not like it was when we got that sad thin envelope from schools we'd applied to. Of course these are the upper echelon type schools but not the debt machine bottom feeders either.
She also knows what schools are looking for so she's helped out people in tailoring how the kid looks. This isn't done through years of planning as EleanorR posted about though.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)This is America.
nycbos
(6,038 posts)aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)Or one really big endowment gift?
Presidents at most universities, even public ones, can make exceptions to admissions decisions.
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)deurbano
(2,895 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)
so, I guess Jared's dad got off cheap! Of course he also had to donate megabucks to NYU so Jared could get into law school to become familiar with all the laws he planned to violate!
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Meet-Meg-Whitmans-Big-Men-on-Campus-jw-79686842.html
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Tis known.
underpants
(182,883 posts)Jareds own private high school was surprised he got in.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Figures, tho.
underpants
(182,883 posts)My book exposed a grubby secret of American higher education: that the rich buy their under-achieving childrens way into elite universities with massive, tax-deductible donations. It reported that New Jersey real estate developer Charles Kushner had pledged $2.5 million to Harvard University in 1998, not long before his son Jared was admitted to the prestigious Ivy League school. At the time, Harvard accepted about one of every nine applicants. (Nowadays, it only takes one out of twenty.)
I also quoted administrators at Jareds high school, who described him as a less than stellar student and expressed dismay at Harvards decision.
There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard, a former official at The Frisch School in Paramus, New Jersey, told me. His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.
https://www.propublica.org/article/the-story-behind-jared-kushners-curious-acceptance-into-harvard
deurbano
(2,895 posts)And his father also contributed to NYU (where Jared studied law)... and I think to Cornell as a Harvard backup.
Revolting hypocrisy and projection (as usual!) when President Obama's academic record was constantly questioned by Jared's dad-in-law (and his deplorable followers), even though he graduated in the top 15 percent at Harvard Law! So, even if his undergraduate work was not of the tippy-top highest order (I think he has said he had a 3.5 average overall, but maybe 3.7 at Columbia for the last two years?), they obviously made the right choice in admitting him.... while the same cannot be said of Yale, which admitted Cheney as an undergraduate only to have him flunk out! (But we never hear about that, do we? It was before women were admitted and before affirmative action, but being from WY probably helped; though no one seems to argue that regional representation is unfair.) Also, W got into Harvard Business School with an undergraduate C average from Yale and "experience" as a failed businessman.
https://www.eduinreview.com/blog/2008/10/college-records-of-dick-cheney-show-he-failed-out-of-yale/
Renew Deal
(81,872 posts)The schools will even solicit them from applicants.
lostnfound
(16,190 posts)Watching now.
lostnfound
(16,190 posts)Holy crud. Some students did not even KNOW. Some kids took the exams and got good test scores but never knew the parents had bought them the good scores! Oh My God.
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Hes her husband and a favorite actor.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)Im only sorry for any kids who got forced by their parents to do this, and felt they had no choice but to cheat
Amends are due, Mom and Dad
nolabear
(41,991 posts)But blatant bribery...
Mendocino
(7,509 posts)Did he flee the interview or was he cooperating?
monmouth4
(9,710 posts)tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)eom
Codeine
(25,586 posts)thus increasing awareness of this bullshit. Ya gotta use the tools youre given.
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tenderfoot
(8,438 posts)you should see the comments from wingnuts on twitter.
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Quality and affordability!
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)are relatively easy to get into most of their academic programs (I know Nursing at Iowa is challenging to get into - my daughter did not even try because a local hospital affiliated college allowed her to finish sooner).
I had my kids load up on community college classes while in high school so that they finished early in college. I never had them do the AP/Honors rat race for a possible scholarship or acceptance into an elite private. More value in living at home and finishing their first two years over the nebulous possibility of more scholarships beyond what is clearly defined (certain ACT, certain class rank).
Both kids are live in their home town and have great jobs. Both started their jobs at 20. My oldest is 23 and is coming up on five years of vestment (two summer internships).
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Public education is the best tool for social mobility in existence. That's why Republicans hate it so much.
moondust
(20,006 posts)I expect corruption/crime--especially white collar--will become more common in the U.S., potentially overwhelming law enforcement. Kids and some parents are finding out that you can really go places not because you can do anything well but just by cheating and screwing people and buying a lot of publicity for your "brand" along the way. Maybe even become President someday.
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exboyfil
(17,865 posts)I wonder if the IRS is going to get a bite out of them as well if they claimed the deduction.
-Steph-
(409 posts)even worse.. her daughter posted a Youtube video a while back where she said she doesn't even care about school and that she's only attending so she can have the college party experience. In the video she also said she's not even sure how often she'll attend classes.
It's horrible to think someone like that stole a spot from someone deserving that would have really wanted to be there.
Her comments on it are brief and start around the 5:30 mark.
obamanut2012
(26,142 posts)demmiblue
(36,893 posts)RockRaven
(15,002 posts)From a social standpoint this is very very sick. If the same parents had taken the same money and given it to the universities directly, and received admission for their kids in exchange, the FBI/DOJ wouldn't have lifted a finger -- because it would not have been illegal. It is only because they paid other people for the same result, which was obtained by lying to the university to trick them into admitting the students, that they've broken the law. In a sense, the FBI/DOJ is defending the rights of the universities to extort that money themselves. While condemning the privilege and entitlement of the wealthy, let's also keep an eye on the very messed up system which these prosecutions are protecting.
underpants
(182,883 posts)$2.5 million over 5 or 10 years if memory serves
Lucky Luciano
(11,260 posts)I know it sucks, but a significant donation to the school does improve education at the school by creating new departments, buildings, contributes to scholarship funds, etc., so I can deal with that.
Obviously paying a specific person off us considerably worse.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!
MichMary
(1,714 posts)(and it wasn't everything, because my dogs were going ballistic) it sounds like the schools weren't involved; some coaches were. But it also involved paying for people to take or "improve" the scores.
LonePirate
(13,431 posts)dsc
(52,166 posts)9 figures is 100 million, and while Huffman and Macy are rich, I doubt they are that rich. Neither one are Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks who are the only ones I can think of who might have made enough to have a spare 100 million lying about.
Baitball Blogger
(46,758 posts)GemDigger
(4,305 posts)Gothmog
(145,567 posts)Wilkie Farr is a white shoe law firm and this will be big news in legal circles https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/big-time-attorney-implicated-in-alleged-college-entrance-scam-of-national-proportions/
The Justice Department, including a transcript of a conversation allegedly between Caplan and an unidentified party, claims that Caplan paid the money as part of an agreement that would have his daughter declared as having a learning discrepancy in order for her to get extended time to take the exam, which she would also be permitted to take at this unnamed persons school, with a proctor ensuring that she got the desired score.
According to court documents, Caplan paid $25,000 before his daughter took the test, and $50,000 afterwards.
According to Caplans bio on the Willkie Farr website, he is not only the co-chairman of the firm, but a member of the firms Executive Committee and a partner practicing in their Private Equity Practice Group and Corporate & Financial Services Department. He earned his J.D. from Fordham University School of Law, and a B.A. from Cornell.
dlk
(11,578 posts)Its not just wealthy, connected women. Men have been doing this for a very long time, too. Interestingly, its the womens names in the headlines
BamaRefugee
(3,487 posts)3catwoman3
(24,051 posts)...may not be new, but I admit to being shocked that coaches would accept a "player" who doesn't even play the sport.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I'm shocked, shocked I say!
Looks like good ole pure unrestrained capitalism is working it's magic again!
catbyte
(34,454 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)does not mean you are an honorable/decent/law-abiding citizen
Shofty people are also good actors.
edhopper
(33,615 posts)we known the photogenic actresses, but no one is showing the CEOs.