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demmiblue

(36,893 posts)
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:11 AM Mar 2019

Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin among actresses, CEOs charged in alleged college admissions scam

BOSTON -- Actresses and chief executives are among 50 people arrested in a nationwide college admissions cheating scam, authorities announced Tuesday.

According to charging documents, actresses Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin are among those involved facing charges.

The suspects allegedly paid bribes of up to $6 million to get their kids into elite colleges, including Yale, Stanford, Georgetown and USC.

In most cases, the students did not know their admission was contingent on a bribe.

University athletic coaches and administrators of college entrance exams were also among those arrested.

The alleged scam centered around a man in California who ran a business helping students get into the college of their choice.

Authorities say parents would pay him a predetermined amount, with full knowledge of what they were doing. He would then steer the money to one of two places: either an SAT or ACT administrator, or a college athletic coach.

https://abc7chicago.com/actresses-ceos-charged-in-alleged-college-admissions-scam/5186103/
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Felicity Huffman, Lori Loughlin among actresses, CEOs charged in alleged college admissions scam (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2019 OP
WTF??? atreides1 Mar 2019 #1
Lori Laughlin's supposed to be some holy roller. Her next series, she's in "Full Inda Big House!" TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #32
This is why you should support your local community college. Coventina Mar 2019 #2
A new category of celebrity crime! blogslut Mar 2019 #3
+++, a whole new level of surreal. Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #18
"Cheaters liars thieves - for SHAME, and ADIOS" mitch96 Mar 2019 #24
Not New Caliman73 Mar 2019 #48
Parents in my area pay consultant starting when their child is a freshman or sophomore in HS EleanorR Mar 2019 #4
Really? Bettie Mar 2019 #6
There are articles about it around here every year when college admission time rolls around EleanorR Mar 2019 #8
Wow...it would be nice to have enough resources to Bettie Mar 2019 #9
I had no idea about this. underpants Mar 2019 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author Rainbow Droid Mar 2019 #42
My feelings too: gross. Duppers Mar 2019 #55
My neighbor's gig BBG Mar 2019 #58
I believe high school guidance counselors used to do something similar EleanorR Mar 2019 #59
That's right BBG Mar 2019 #60
I know someone who does something like that except the reverse underpants Mar 2019 #65
Ugh. Tipperary Mar 2019 #5
I am shocked SHOCKED to find gambling on here. nycbos Mar 2019 #7
Whatever happened to the legal bribes of 5 years of endowment gifts? aikoaiko Mar 2019 #10
... demmiblue Mar 2019 #12
That's what I'm talking about, but way beyond Jared. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #14
Meg Whitman donated 30 million to Princeton (and coincidentally, her low life son was admitted), deurbano Mar 2019 #47
Like Trump's father did, to get him into Wharton. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2019 #16
And Jared's dad to get him in to Harvard underpants Mar 2019 #33
Did not know that bit. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2019 #44
$2.5 million pledged to be paid over 5 or 10 years underpants Mar 2019 #62
I have the book in which that was reported, Price of Admission, written before he became Mr. Trump. deurbano Mar 2019 #53
I was talking to someone about this today and they said this is very common Renew Deal Mar 2019 #56
Sad, and the kids pictures are out there now nt lostnfound Mar 2019 #11
Crazy Alea Mar 2019 #13
Sad for rejected worthy applicants, also diminished reputation of legitimate graduates lostnfound Mar 2019 #15
Crap. I like Felicity Huffman. I hope Wm H Macy isn't involved. nolabear Mar 2019 #17
Looks as if he is, bear (paragraph 153) Leghorn21 Mar 2019 #20
Dammit. Not that preferences aren't extended all the time. nolabear Mar 2019 #61
Darn tooting Mendocino Mar 2019 #66
I used to see Lori Loughlin all the time when I worked in NY. Very friendly, sweet woman. Wow. n/t monmouth4 Mar 2019 #19
40 people and 2 actresses - lets make this about the entertainment industry tenderfoot Mar 2019 #21
It gets people to read the article Codeine Mar 2019 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Mar 2019 #25
yep... tenderfoot Mar 2019 #26
Support your local public university! IluvPitties Mar 2019 #22
We are blessed with three state universities that exboyfil Mar 2019 #34
Congrats to your children! IluvPitties Mar 2019 #68
A fish rots from the head. moondust Mar 2019 #27
Charitable contributions exboyfil Mar 2019 #28
From what I've read, it appears Lori Loughlin's daughters were aware of the bribes, & to make it -Steph- Mar 2019 #29
She also has a sponcon IG obamanut2012 Mar 2019 #39
I just saw that. demmiblue Mar 2019 #50
The FBI/DOJ said flat out: they're being prosecuted for bribing the wrong party. RockRaven Mar 2019 #30
Yep. That's what Jared's dad did underpants Mar 2019 #35
Donating to the school is one thing...donating to someone's bank account is another! Lucky Luciano Mar 2019 #43
What? Wealthy people are bribing elite schools to accept their unqualified kids? GoCubsGo Mar 2019 #36
From what I heard at the press conference MichMary Mar 2019 #40
So these wealthy people couldn't afford to donate an 8-9 figure $$$ building like billionaires do? LonePirate Mar 2019 #37
probably not dsc Mar 2019 #38
Anyone think that any of the Trumps will get caught in this? Baitball Blogger Mar 2019 #41
Tiffany is at Georgetown. That was my very first thought when I read about this. nt GemDigger Mar 2019 #54
A big law firm partner is involved Gothmog Mar 2019 #45
This Type is Cheating Has Been Occurring for Many Years dlk Mar 2019 #46
Not really. It was the athletic coaches in the headlines on several of my news feeds. BamaRefugee Mar 2019 #49
Cheating/bribing/corruption in college sports... 3catwoman3 Mar 2019 #52
So you are telling me that the deck is stacked for the rich with no morals in America? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #51
Why not just do it the old fashioned way? Donate a shitload of money directly to the university. catbyte Mar 2019 #57
Just because you are talented & have a pretty/handsome face, SoCalDem Mar 2019 #63
Which CEOs edhopper Mar 2019 #64
here's an essay from someone who worked in admissions crazycatlady Mar 2019 #67

TheBlackAdder

(28,214 posts)
32. Lori Laughlin's supposed to be some holy roller. Her next series, she's in "Full Inda Big House!"
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:54 PM
Mar 2019

.

Check out the crazy 700 Club interview, where her husband is Mossimo and has a clothing line at Target.

http://www1.cbn.com/700club/actress-lori-loughlin-balancing-family-faith-and-career

.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
18. +++, a whole new level of surreal.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:02 PM
Mar 2019

Apparently, it’s “an old story”, though, and people do this all the time, but I’m so awfully happy they got BUSTED

Cheaters liars thieves - for SHAME, and ADIOS

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
24. "Cheaters liars thieves - for SHAME, and ADIOS"
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:34 PM
Mar 2019

Well so much for the goody goody Hallmark channel actress and the other one is REALLY a desperate housewife now!!
m

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
48. Not New
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:55 PM
Mar 2019

George W Bush could not get into the University of Texas, but he got into Yale. Jared Kutschner got into an elite university right after his parents made a 2.5 million dollar donation. Bush got into University of Pennsylvania despite his being a complete idiot.

EleanorR

(2,395 posts)
4. Parents in my area pay consultant starting when their child is a freshman or sophomore in HS
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:25 AM
Mar 2019

Typically they pay $5,000-$10,000 and up for someone to coach their child in things like class choices, extracurriculars, and essay writing and to help with college choices and applications. Test help is extra.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
6. Really?
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:33 AM
Mar 2019

Wow. Nothing like that around here, but we're in a not-affluent small town where making 50k a year is upper income.

EleanorR

(2,395 posts)
8. There are articles about it around here every year when college admission time rolls around
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:37 AM
Mar 2019

Certainly seems like a thing.

Bettie

(16,126 posts)
9. Wow...it would be nice to have enough resources to
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:39 AM
Mar 2019

do that!

But, I trust my kids to figure it out.

Response to EleanorR (Reply #4)

Duppers

(28,127 posts)
55. My feelings too: gross.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:30 PM
Mar 2019

My kid got into very good universities with hard work. Hubs and I put a high priority on his studying and grades and were lucky in that he had a free STEM school within busing distance his 11th & 12th grades. He took college level classes there. Our county's school district was rated in the top 100 schools systems in the country and we were happy to pay our higher taxes.

Paying for privileges? Won't the kids' lack of knowledge show up later in the world? A workd which usually judges you by your knowledge, brain power, and skills.
But then again, look where it's gotten tRump.

How the F did colleges/universities get this corrupted??!!
Underfunding?

BBG

(2,550 posts)
58. My neighbor's gig
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:42 PM
Mar 2019

It’s like a marketing gig but for an individual as a product. For the individual to be best prepared and best marketed to colleges at application time.

EleanorR

(2,395 posts)
59. I believe high school guidance counselors used to do something similar
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:55 PM
Mar 2019

I think they used to help prepare kids, payed attention to their coursework, helped with applications, but I think with cuts to education funding guidance counselors have been cut. And of course getting into college became more and more competitive and many schools have had more applicants because of the ease of using the Common App.

BBG

(2,550 posts)
60. That's right
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 03:01 PM
Mar 2019

All about privatization. Take what’s a legitimate function in the public space and do away with it. Opens up the function to private enterprise and eventual exploitation like we see in this article.

underpants

(182,883 posts)
65. I know someone who does something like that except the reverse
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 06:59 AM
Mar 2019

Schools market the hell out of themselves these days. They often come after the student not like it was when we got that sad thin envelope from schools we'd applied to. Of course these are the upper echelon type schools but not the debt machine bottom feeders either.

She also knows what schools are looking for so she's helped out people in tailoring how the kid looks. This isn't done through years of planning as EleanorR posted about though.

aikoaiko

(34,183 posts)
10. Whatever happened to the legal bribes of 5 years of endowment gifts?
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:39 AM
Mar 2019

Or one really big endowment gift?

Presidents at most universities, even public ones, can make exceptions to admissions decisions.

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
47. Meg Whitman donated 30 million to Princeton (and coincidentally, her low life son was admitted),
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:53 PM
Mar 2019

Last edited Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:47 PM - Edit history (1)

so, I guess Jared's dad got off cheap! Of course he also had to donate megabucks to NYU so Jared could get into law school to become familiar with all the laws he planned to violate!

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/politics/Meet-Meg-Whitmans-Big-Men-on-Campus-jw-79686842.html

underpants

(182,883 posts)
62. $2.5 million pledged to be paid over 5 or 10 years
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 05:59 PM
Mar 2019

My book exposed a grubby secret of American higher education: that the rich buy their under-achieving children’s way into elite universities with massive, tax-deductible donations. It reported that New Jersey real estate developer Charles Kushner had pledged $2.5 million to Harvard University in 1998, not long before his son Jared was admitted to the prestigious Ivy League school. At the time, Harvard accepted about one of every nine applicants. (Nowadays, it only takes one out of twenty.)

I also quoted administrators at Jared’s high school, who described him as a less than stellar student and expressed dismay at Harvard’s decision.

“There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard,” a former official at The Frisch School in Paramus, New Jersey, told me. “His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.”

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-story-behind-jared-kushners-curious-acceptance-into-harvard

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
53. I have the book in which that was reported, Price of Admission, written before he became Mr. Trump.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:14 PM
Mar 2019

And his father also contributed to NYU (where Jared studied law)... and I think to Cornell as a Harvard backup.

Revolting hypocrisy and projection (as usual!) when President Obama's academic record was constantly questioned by Jared's dad-in-law (and his deplorable followers), even though he graduated in the top 15 percent at Harvard Law! So, even if his undergraduate work was not of the tippy-top highest order (I think he has said he had a 3.5 average overall, but maybe 3.7 at Columbia for the last two years?), they obviously made the right choice in admitting him.... while the same cannot be said of Yale, which admitted Cheney as an undergraduate only to have him flunk out! (But we never hear about that, do we? It was before women were admitted and before affirmative action, but being from WY probably helped; though no one seems to argue that regional representation is unfair.) Also, W got into Harvard Business School with an undergraduate C average from Yale and "experience" as a failed businessman.

https://www.eduinreview.com/blog/2008/10/college-records-of-dick-cheney-show-he-failed-out-of-yale/

Renew Deal

(81,872 posts)
56. I was talking to someone about this today and they said this is very common
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:32 PM
Mar 2019

The schools will even solicit them from applicants.

lostnfound

(16,190 posts)
15. Sad for rejected worthy applicants, also diminished reputation of legitimate graduates
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:53 AM
Mar 2019

Holy crud. Some students did not even KNOW. Some kids took the exams and got good test scores but never knew the parents had bought them the good scores! Oh My God.

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
17. Crap. I like Felicity Huffman. I hope Wm H Macy isn't involved.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 11:58 AM
Mar 2019

He’s her husband and a favorite actor.

Leghorn21

(13,526 posts)
20. Looks as if he is, bear (paragraph 153)
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:12 PM
Mar 2019


I’m only sorry for any kids who got forced by their parents to do this, and felt they had no choice but to cheat

Amends are due, Mom and Dad
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
23. It gets people to read the article
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:17 PM
Mar 2019

thus increasing awareness of this bullshit. Ya gotta use the tools you’re given.

Response to Codeine (Reply #23)

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
34. We are blessed with three state universities that
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:55 PM
Mar 2019

are relatively easy to get into most of their academic programs (I know Nursing at Iowa is challenging to get into - my daughter did not even try because a local hospital affiliated college allowed her to finish sooner).

I had my kids load up on community college classes while in high school so that they finished early in college. I never had them do the AP/Honors rat race for a possible scholarship or acceptance into an elite private. More value in living at home and finishing their first two years over the nebulous possibility of more scholarships beyond what is clearly defined (certain ACT, certain class rank).

Both kids are live in their home town and have great jobs. Both started their jobs at 20. My oldest is 23 and is coming up on five years of vestment (two summer internships).

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
68. Congrats to your children!
Tue Mar 19, 2019, 03:00 PM
Mar 2019

Public education is the best tool for social mobility in existence. That's why Republicans hate it so much.

moondust

(20,006 posts)
27. A fish rots from the head.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:40 PM
Mar 2019

I expect corruption/crime--especially white collar--will become more common in the U.S., potentially overwhelming law enforcement. Kids and some parents are finding out that you can really go places not because you can do anything well but just by cheating and screwing people and buying a lot of publicity for your "brand" along the way. Maybe even become President someday.

February 13, 2019
~
Focused primarily on violent crime, opioid cases and, most notably, immigration violations, Justice Department statements and policies over the last two years have made clear that prosecuting business conduct is not a top priority. The administration’s shift in emphasis has resulted in a decline not only in the number of traditional white-collar cases brought, but also in the amounts of fines and penalties imposed on white-collar wrongdoers.
~
White-Collar Enforcement After Two Years of Trump

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
28. Charitable contributions
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:46 PM
Mar 2019

I wonder if the IRS is going to get a bite out of them as well if they claimed the deduction.

-Steph-

(409 posts)
29. From what I've read, it appears Lori Loughlin's daughters were aware of the bribes, & to make it
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:48 PM
Mar 2019

even worse.. her daughter posted a Youtube video a while back where she said she doesn't even care about school and that she's only attending so she can have the college party experience. In the video she also said she's not even sure how often she'll attend classes.

It's horrible to think someone like that stole a spot from someone deserving that would have really wanted to be there.

Her comments on it are brief and start around the 5:30 mark.

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RockRaven

(15,002 posts)
30. The FBI/DOJ said flat out: they're being prosecuted for bribing the wrong party.
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:50 PM
Mar 2019

From a social standpoint this is very very sick. If the same parents had taken the same money and given it to the universities directly, and received admission for their kids in exchange, the FBI/DOJ wouldn't have lifted a finger -- because it would not have been illegal. It is only because they paid other people for the same result, which was obtained by lying to the university to trick them into admitting the students, that they've broken the law. In a sense, the FBI/DOJ is defending the rights of the universities to extort that money themselves. While condemning the privilege and entitlement of the wealthy, let's also keep an eye on the very messed up system which these prosecutions are protecting.

Lucky Luciano

(11,260 posts)
43. Donating to the school is one thing...donating to someone's bank account is another!
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:23 PM
Mar 2019

I know it sucks, but a significant donation to the school does improve education at the school by creating new departments, buildings, contributes to scholarship funds, etc., so I can deal with that.

Obviously paying a specific person off us considerably worse.

GoCubsGo

(32,094 posts)
36. What? Wealthy people are bribing elite schools to accept their unqualified kids?
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 12:56 PM
Mar 2019

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you!

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
40. From what I heard at the press conference
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:12 PM
Mar 2019

(and it wasn't everything, because my dogs were going ballistic) it sounds like the schools weren't involved; some coaches were. But it also involved paying for people to take or "improve" the scores.

dsc

(52,166 posts)
38. probably not
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:05 PM
Mar 2019

9 figures is 100 million, and while Huffman and Macy are rich, I doubt they are that rich. Neither one are Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks who are the only ones I can think of who might have made enough to have a spare 100 million lying about.

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
45. A big law firm partner is involved
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:47 PM
Mar 2019

Wilkie Farr is a white shoe law firm and this will be big news in legal circles https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/big-time-attorney-implicated-in-alleged-college-entrance-scam-of-national-proportions/

Among the dozens of individuals accused of taking part in the scam is Gordon Caplan, currently the co-chairman of major global law firm Willkie Farr & Gallagher LLP. According to court documents, Caplan paid $75,000 to William Rick Singer‘s Key Worldwide Foundation, a charity organization that was allegedly used to orchestrate the scam. He’s been charged with with conspiracy to commit mail fraud and honest services mail fraud.

The Justice Department, including a transcript of a conversation allegedly between Caplan and an unidentified party, claims that Caplan paid the money as part of an agreement that would have his daughter declared as having a learning “discrepancy” in order for her to get extended time to take the exam, which she would also be permitted to take at this unnamed person’s school, with a proctor ensuring that she got the desired score.

According to court documents, Caplan paid $25,000 before his daughter took the test, and $50,000 afterwards.

According to Caplan’s bio on the Willkie Farr website, he is not only the co-chairman of the firm, but a member of the firm’s Executive Committee and a partner practicing in their Private Equity Practice Group and Corporate & Financial Services Department. He earned his J.D. from Fordham University School of Law, and a B.A. from Cornell.

dlk

(11,578 posts)
46. This Type is Cheating Has Been Occurring for Many Years
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 01:47 PM
Mar 2019

It’s not just wealthy, connected women. Men have been doing this for a very long time, too. Interestingly, it’s the women’s names in the headlines

3catwoman3

(24,051 posts)
52. Cheating/bribing/corruption in college sports...
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:11 PM
Mar 2019

...may not be new, but I admit to being shocked that coaches would accept a "player" who doesn't even play the sport.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
51. So you are telling me that the deck is stacked for the rich with no morals in America?
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 02:09 PM
Mar 2019

I'm shocked, shocked I say!

Looks like good ole pure unrestrained capitalism is working it's magic again!

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
63. Just because you are talented & have a pretty/handsome face,
Tue Mar 12, 2019, 06:24 PM
Mar 2019

does not mean you are an honorable/decent/law-abiding citizen
Shofty people are also good actors.

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