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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump just tweeted that he doesn't want Albert Einstein to fly his jet
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Link to tweet
Donald J. Trump
Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT. I see it all the time in many products. Always seeking to go one unnecessary step further, when often old and simpler is far better. Split second decisions are....
needed, and the complexity creates danger. All of this for great cost yet very little gain. I dont know about you, but I dont want Albert Einstein to be my pilot. I want great flying professionals that are allowed to easily and quickly take control of a plane!
Botany
(70,585 posts)The man is nucking futz.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)A badly designed control system might have caused these accidents. Pilot should always have easy override or you design out failures.
Bleacher Creature
(11,257 posts)That said, thanks for pointing out what is likely the seed that launched his most recent tirade.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)This has been a 30 year argument and it is EXTREMELY complex. These systems can interfere with the pilots, but they can also prevent the pilot from making fatal mistakes. The question is whether one can have both, and which one is more important. Trust me, Trump has NO idea what he's talking about.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)I've worked in aviation as an avionics engineer for over 30 years. There are overrides. Mistakes can, and do happen, of course, but let's be clear here... improvements in aviation technology have made commercial airline flying the safest mode of transport BY FAR!
Let's not lose the forest for the trees.
dalton99a
(81,590 posts)riversedge
(70,305 posts)winetourdriver01
(1,154 posts)How to interpret this gibberish? He doesn't want Jewish pilots? Something else?
riversedge
(70,305 posts)HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)"Keep the plane ready and cooled. That is all (click)"
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Johonny
(20,889 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Girard442
(6,085 posts)Feel free to speculate.
Docreed2003
(16,876 posts)edhopper
(33,616 posts)"I can't work the TV remote anymore and I like dial phones"
Afromania
(2,771 posts)Mrs. Overall
(6,839 posts)Girard442
(6,085 posts)Apparently our prop builder was a bit OCD.
CatMor
(6,212 posts)with the complexity of Twitter and someone teaching trump how to use it he became a real danger to the world. I don't know about you but I don't want trump to be my leader.
appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)appleannie1943
(1,303 posts)Javaman
(62,534 posts)even a dead physicist would be better than the orange asshole.
Leghorn21
(13,526 posts)his country, thanks to you.
I wish a Dem or two would escort him around Capitol Hill and then a press person ask Sully what he thinks of the current regime and then see what MF45 might have to say about it, either via tweet or during a GOP fundraiser.
Because that would be awesome
LakeArenal
(28,845 posts)So Dump..... Out you go.
C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)no wonder he clutches the rails on the tarmac
CanonRay
(14,118 posts)handmade34
(22,758 posts)The Truth Is Here
(354 posts)He'd be busy working out the logistics of Trump's next launch.. with Trump in it! Destination: Sol.
malaise
(269,172 posts)just undiluted fuckery posing as knowledge.
I detest this creep.
Thank you Obama for your sympathetic comments on the crash.
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)Same shit, different day with this syphilis-addled shitbag.
33taw
(2,448 posts)Botany
(70,585 posts)33taw
(2,448 posts)Botany
(70,585 posts)The planes were put together w/wood, canvas, and wire ... a lot of times they just
broke apart when flying.
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)BSdetect
(8,999 posts)nykym
(3,063 posts)a routine flight on a blackbird.
Maybe he'd be more comfortable on one of Davinci creations.
jmowreader
(50,562 posts)The Basic Equipment List for a Blackbird did not include a shoehorn to get the backseater in the plane.
doc03
(35,378 posts)transportation. Yes every commercial plane crash makes world wide headlines, that is because they are so rare. Trump is a moron, why doesn't he drive a car to his golf resort.
MLAA
(17,329 posts)Mr. Sparkle
(2,948 posts)and that's not happening. You literally could not pay me to watch dumb and dumber and dumbiest.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)as if he ever had one.
ChicagoRonin
(630 posts)"President Hates Smart Jewish Pilots"
gibraltar72
(7,512 posts)spanone
(135,880 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)llmart
(15,553 posts)And in addition, yes, WTF is he even talking about?
GoCubsGo
(32,094 posts)What a fucking imbecile. But all y'all knew that already...
Blue Owl
(50,506 posts)Make up your mind, pea-brain...
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,613 posts)WTFITS
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Remember 9 months ago when Trump was trying to take credit for how safe commercial air travel is? The internet remembers...
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PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,899 posts)Recently I was listening to a piece on some NPR station about how and why pilots started using pre-flight check-lists, and it dates from a crash that happened in 1935. The piece went into some detail about how the plane that crashed was piloted by a very experienced pilot, and because of some recent change in technology they forgot to unlock the elevators and rudder.
So the pre-flight check-list was born, and the piece went on to say how incredibly good it was in the training of pilots in WWII.
Here's a link to an article on this topic: https://aviationweek.com/business-aviation/checklists-and-callouts-keep-it-simple-avoid-distraction-prevent-ineptitude It's a pretty long article, but the essential information is in the first two or three paragraphs.
So whatever the probably cause is in these two recent flights, planes are not too complex, and fully automated ones won't be a good idea. At least not for a very long time.
Just think back to US Airways 1549 and it's almost impossible to imagine some current AI could possibly have landed that plane safely.
librechik
(30,676 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)I am so thankful.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)It doesnt get any more low-tech than that.