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Philosoraptor

(15,019 posts)
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:46 AM Aug 2012

Will the 'new' gop try to change, or double down on the nastiness?

In my opinion, the gop has taken a huge blow to the solar plexus and they are down for the count. The todd akin factor has gutted them so deeply I don't see how they can beat Barack Obama this election. I am allowing myself this little bit of optimism.

I see them as mortally wounded, and after they lose this election they will sit down in a big room and try to figure out what happened and why, and maybe, just maybe they'll try to be a little more streamlined and modern, or maybe try to seed out some of the maniacs that have been gripping them by the little boy parts.

Or, they could just get meaner and nastier and double down on the vitriol and hatred and take it to the brink, the nation be damned. Their history shows that they're all a bunch of pissed off white millionaire power hungry maniac bullies, and if they change at all, it'll most likely be for the worse.

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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
1. And what do we say when Akin beats McKaskill?
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:51 AM
Aug 2012

It's difficult to try and understand how the human mind works? I would not be surprised to see them use this as a rallying cry at their convention, all in the name of "pro-life" and family values.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
4. The remains will leverage oil money to continue their abuse of power
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:59 AM
Aug 2012

Filibusters, manufactured consent, media domination, election rigging, threats of violence, actual violence!
Yes, I agree that there will be places where they succeed.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
2. The goal is to kill off as many poor as they can.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:53 AM
Aug 2012

Until they reach that goal, they will not stop. They will keep getting worse.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
3. They double down or they lose their base and the teabaggers start a 3rd party
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 06:57 AM
Aug 2012

which ruins their party.

You can't build up your support with years (or decades) of hate speech and dog whistle politics and then just pivot away from it.

They are in their death throws and they know it. That is why they are trying to change the electorate to favor themselves. If they don't do something by 2020 then it may be to late for them. They are screwed.



http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/aia2010031101/


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The increase in the nonwhite share of the electorate over the next decade will have major consequences for electoral competition. If the Democratic Party is able to maintain anything close to the overwhelming advantage among nonwhite voters that it enjoyed in 2008, Republican candidates will need to win a considerably larger share of the white vote than their party’s candidates did in 2008 or even 2004 in order to remain competitive in national elections. Under these circumstances, even a 60 percent share of the white vote would not be enough to give a Republican candidate a majority of the popular vote and the last Republican presidential candidate to win more than 60 percent of the white vote was Ronald Reagan in 1984.

An alternative path to victory for Republicans in future national elections would involve seeking to expand their Party’s support among nonwhite voters. By winning a larger share of the nonwhite vote, a Republican candidate could be elected with considerably less than 60 percent of the white vote. But this would require the GOP to move away from its conservative base and closer to the ideological center because nonwhite voters tend to be strong supporters of increased spending on social programs and activist government.

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Along the same lines, 65 percent of nonwhite voters, including 64 percent of African-American voters and 73 percent of Hispanic voters, supported the creation of a single-payer health care system in the United States compared with only 15 percent of Republican primary voters. And given a choice between more government services with higher taxes and fewer government services with lower taxes, 67 percent of nonwhite voters, including 67 percent of African-American voters and 68 percent of Hispanic voters, chose more government services with higher taxes compared with only 25 percent of GOP primary voters.

brewens

(13,626 posts)
6. Four years of harping on abortion and it's now what they are about.
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:41 AM
Aug 2012

WTF did they THINK was gonna happen? It's really priceless that now they are stuck with it. I would urge anyone in the media to steer every conversation to abortion and those personhood bills.

For this entire administration we needed the Republicans to help do somethng about the economy and all they wanted to do was abortion. Now they would like to use the economy to win the Whitehouse and it's abortion, abortion and more abortion! You gotta love it.

rock

(13,218 posts)
7. What choice do they have?
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 09:33 AM
Aug 2012

They are a defunct party (at least in a democracy); absolutely worthless as a viable political choice. What else can they do?

CabCurious

(954 posts)
9. They had a choice in 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, and 2012... each time getting nastier
Fri Aug 24, 2012, 07:34 PM
Aug 2012

They even turn on their own moderates who have called for civility and more honesty.

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