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William Barr is trouble (Original Post) SHRED Mar 2019 OP
K&R Solly Mack Mar 2019 #1
Agree. and his lawyer son-in-law works IN the White House elfin Mar 2019 #2
The one shining light that I see, watoos Mar 2019 #3
Probably, but I've got this completely insane fantasy: The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #4
There are a few good republicans out there, very few calguy Mar 2019 #5
Could very well happen as you say. Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #6
The reason I started fantasizing about this scenario is that I couldn't figure out The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #8
Remember his Son in now in the White House Wellstone ruled Mar 2019 #12
Because he believes in the GOP and wants to protect them. EndGOPPropaganda Mar 2019 #13
My guess regarding your question is that he has all those children who are attorneys, most of which politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2019 #18
I have been thinking that very things for quite some time now. Stinky The Clown Mar 2019 #10
I hope it turns out to be true, as mad as it might seem. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #11
I've thought the same thing snowybirdie Mar 2019 #17
I thought of this as well....rump has been set up by the 'establishment'. I keep this kernel tucked UniteFightBack Mar 2019 #19
I keep thinking he is some judge Ellis type JI7 Mar 2019 #7
Check out my back & forth further down the thread SHRED Mar 2019 #9
Barr is as good as we were going to get from trump. Hoyt Mar 2019 #14
But there's a catch many a good man Mar 2019 #15
Trump checked very closely to find a guy who would cover his ass rurallib Mar 2019 #16

elfin

(6,262 posts)
2. Agree. and his lawyer son-in-law works IN the White House
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:58 PM
Mar 2019

Presumably, on nothing related to Mueller. "Presumably."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
4. Probably, but I've got this completely insane fantasy:
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 06:22 PM
Mar 2019

Bear with me - this is nuts, but what if Barr isn't really the stooge we suspect him to be? And what would be the best way to take down Trump from the inside of his administration? By becoming his Attorney General, that's how, and then you allow the Mueller report to become public and then disregard the previous OLC opinion that a sitting president can't be indicted.

But how do you get to be Trump's attorney general - a job that's been nothing but trouble for those who've had it, and at this point no sane, reputable lawyer would want? Say you're an old-line conservative who's been AG before and has held other high-level government jobs, and more recently has been making top dollar at a white-shoe law firm. You have perfect professional credentials but there are probably a lot of other, more reliable Trump-loving Matthew Whittaker-type stooges who'd take the job in a heartbeat. So what do you do?

What you do is, you write and send Trump a long, detailed, and completely unsolicited letter setting out your opinion that the Mueller investigation is legally invalid and the president has almost unlimited power over the executive branch. Given your exemplary professional credentials as well, which will make your Senate confirmation inevitable, Trump sees you as the perfect candidate. When he interviews you, you assure him that you would not recuse yourself like Sessions, convincing him that you'll protect him. At your confirmation hearing you come up with enough vague platitudes about following the law that even many Democrats vote for you.

And then the Mueller report comes out and it's full of bad shit about Trump and his family and other GOPers. Trump expects you to protect him, but being an old-fashioned institutionalist you don't. Instead, you make the report, except for a few classified bits, public. And then you decide that the DoJ won't be following the old OLC opinions, allowing Mueller to take Trump's case to a grand jury, which indicts him. In the meantime the House proceeds with his impeachment...

Yes, I know it's totally mad. But wouldn't it be awesome?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Could very well happen as you say.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 06:31 PM
Mar 2019

Let's add this,twenty two months of this nightmare left,and with the Dems in Congress moving fast to bring in all their Trump targeted Players,my guess is,there will be plenty of work for all the Lawyers in the USA for the next five years just filing paperwork for all these Players.

Do not think Adam Schiff and Company are not watching Barr 24/7. Barr has a mega ego and he will watch his moves to not get smacked by Schiff or Cummings because of the 2020 Election Cycle is now in play.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
8. The reason I started fantasizing about this scenario is that I couldn't figure out
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 06:48 PM
Mar 2019

why on earth a guy like Barr would want the job. He's already had a high-powered career; he has been AG already; he was making money hand over fist at a big-shot law firm. He's in his 60s, close to retirement. Whatever we might think of his politics he's clearly not a stupid man, and he must have noticed by now what a dumpster fire the Trump administration is and that many other previously-respected people who went into the administration came out covered with crap. Why would he want to risk his reputation at this stage of his career just to protect Trump? There's really no up-side for him in burying the Mueller report; I have to think he'd prefer to be remembered as Elliot Richardson, not Robert Bork.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Remember his Son in now in the White House
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 07:48 PM
Mar 2019

as Special consul to The Executive. In watching Rethug Politics for decades,certain people always pop up in Rethug Presidencies in order to protect complete out right failure of those Presidencies. I smell Ed Meese who has been the Rethug Fixer cleaner upper Guy for decades,and Barr was there with him during Reagan and later with Cheney and Libby.

Always some mega Lobbyist Group or Law Firm behind every thing Swamp in DC.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
13. Because he believes in the GOP and wants to protect them.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 07:52 PM
Mar 2019

He can go down not as Robert Bork who had to go public with his defense of a corrupt president, but Bill Barr - the guy no one ever really heard of who orchestrated a corrupt coverup (Iran/Contra) and got away with it, saving the Republican Party and their billionaire donors from disaster.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
18. My guess regarding your question is that he has all those children who are attorneys, most of which
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:44 PM
Mar 2019

work for the government as either prosecutors or public defenders. That's not where the money is. The money, power and influence is at the big Wash DC law firms and that is where as AG he can influence people to hire his children. There is only one AG at a time, and we now have seen how political all those other jobs at DoJ can be. No matter how good a job you are doing, a new president can walk in and fire everyone with or without cause and put his own people in to carry out his agenda. Trump has tuned the DoJ on it's head and when he's gone that won't be the end of it, and why should it be. Everyone will be thinking, "If Trump can get away with the shenanigans he was allowed to get away with, the next president and the DoJ replacements will surely do the same to protect their turf. I don't expect to see things get any better in my remaining lifetime, because I don't see anyone in the horizon who wouldn't come in and not take a Trumpian stance, since so far, "he's winning".

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,735 posts)
11. I hope it turns out to be true, as mad as it might seem.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 07:33 PM
Mar 2019

Wouldn't it be great if Trump were sabotaged from within his own administration?

snowybirdie

(5,229 posts)
17. I've thought the same thing
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 11:38 AM
Mar 2019

It seemed so strange that a rich man in the twilight of his career would apply so forcefully for the job. Hopefully, there are reputable Republican folks out there that convinced Barr to take one for the team and save the country. A dream, yes, but the eternal optimist in me can hope........

 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
19. I thought of this as well....rump has been set up by the 'establishment'. I keep this kernel tucked
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 02:00 PM
Mar 2019

away in my mind. I am really hoping we are right...that Barr went on a fishing expedition and boy did he catch himself quite a whale.

many a good man

(5,997 posts)
15. But there's a catch
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 08:44 PM
Mar 2019

Barr will take down Trump on the condition Dems agree to cover up the millions of laundered rubles that went to the Republican party

rurallib

(62,423 posts)
16. Trump checked very closely to find a guy who would cover his ass
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 08:53 PM
Mar 2019

Trump needs to be president to keep his ass out of jail and needs henchmen to keep him out. Barr is an experienced henchman.

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