Another trigger-happy gun humper tries to kill a black guy.

[raccoon]

Another trigger-happy gun hamper tries to kill a black guy.

Amazon driver shot in St. Charles by man accused of being angry over handicapped parking spot
By Denise Hollinshed St. Louis Post-Dispatch
Mar 7, 2019

A man who police say shot an Amazon delivery driver in the back after the two argued over a handicapped parking spot outside a Target Store has been charged. Larry Thomlison, 65, was charged Wednesday with first-degree assault and armed criminal action.

The injured man, 21, was taken to a hospital, where he was in critical but stable condition with a gunshot wound to the back, authorities said. He is at risk of paralysis.

A posting to a GoFundMe page started for the victim identifies him as Jaylen Walker and says he has no feeling in his lower extremities. The page says he has no health insurance and set a $50,000 goal for assisting in his recovery. He works for a third-party provider that delivers for Amazon.

There was a tussle, and authorities said they ended up on the ground. During the struggle, Walker noticed Thomlison had a gun, according to the charges. Walker backed away from Thomlison, then turned and ran, the charges say.

Thomlison then pulled the gun from his waistband and shot Walker in the back, charges say.

Stltoday.com

[Hoyt]

1. Lock the white wing gun-humper up.

[Chin music]

10. "In a nation awash in guns"

Someone said that the other day referencing incendiary language and it's fallout. A president who encourages lawlessness and hurt. Trickles down. People popping off over a parking spot.
ps..Neither of them sound very handicapped if they're fist fighting, running away, shooting someone gunslinger style etc. imo.

[sandensea]

12. +1

In any modern country, the political leadership have more power than anyone to set the tone for what is and isn't acceptable behavior.

Republicans know exactly what they're doing.

[SunSeeker]

2. K & R for exposure.

[RKP5637]

3. Yet another WTF!!! So many each day. You really have to wonder what is wrong with so many people. nt

[malaise]

4. Sick of this crap

Enough already

[exboyfil]

5. He is a model concealed carry citizen

Nothing like a good guy with a gun. Note he threw the first punch as well. Also victim was retreating (even turned back) when shot.

Of course they will always find an excuse.



At a press conference Wednesday, the prosecutor said that Thomlison should have been more responsible because he had been through the St. Charles Police Citizen Academy. He was also a member of the Community Emergency Response Team, a group of area volunteers who receive training from professionals in basic response skills such as performing CPR or treating various injuries. Authorities said he had a concealed carry permit.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

16. I hope our gun control teams get hold of that gold nugget of info.

Training is good and should be mandatory but no amount of training matters to a person who has anger control issues, or happens to be in the percentile of humans that are psychopaths. In fact, psychopaths will use credentials such as training badges or permits to gain access to those they want to harm.

Add a layer of racism, xenophobia, or misogyny on top of that and people are bound to get hurt...... ......

Not saying that's the case here, but I do suspect his high level of training will be used against him in court.

[Oneironaut]

22. I would argue he is the typical concealed-carry citizen.

They claim that they carry because they want to be prepared in case they're a victim of a crime. That's garbage, imo.

They carry because it appeals to a fantasy. They love the feeling of power having a gun in public gives them. Part of them also secretly hopes that someone messes with them, giving them what they've always hoped for - the opportunity to take their gun out and teach someone a lesson. You also get types that concealed carry because they're wannabe cops. It's all part of the gun hero fantasy.

[raccoon]

23. You sure got that right. Nt

[Kaleva]

28. I conceal carry in my home but not in public

Altough you know nothing about me, would you say i fit your profile?

[ProfessorGAC]

33. How Is That Concealed Carry?

I have a crossbow. In my house, it's concealed from the public, but when I go to the archery range, it's impossible to conceal it.
Not understanding how CP is applicable in one's own home. ?????

[Kaleva]

36. You probably don't know what concealed carry means.

By Michigan state law, I, being legally allowed to own or posses a handgun, can conceal carry a handgun in my home and property or place of buisness without a permit. Off my property, I need to have a CPL on my possession if conceal carrying off of my property.

"750.227 Concealed weapons; carrying; penalty.

Sec. 227.

(1) A person shall not carry a dagger, dirk, stiletto, a double-edged nonfolding stabbing instrument of any length, or any other dangerous weapon, except a hunting knife adapted and carried as such, concealed on or about his or her person, or whether concealed or otherwise in any vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business or on other land possessed by the person.

(2) A person shall not carry a pistol concealed on or about his or her person, or, whether concealed or otherwise, in a vehicle operated or occupied by the person, except in his or her dwelling house, place of business, or on other land possessed by the person, without a license to carry the pistol as provided by law and if licensed, shall not carry the pistol in a place or manner inconsistent with any restrictions upon such license. "

https://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/threads/concealed-handgun-on-your-own-property.173008/

I could legally open carry my handgun in my own home and property but I prefer to keep it concealed so that visitors, delivery people, neighbors or whoever doesn't see it. I'm carrying a gun now as I type this.

[sheshe2]

6. So.

Larry is handicapped? Yet was able to tussle, fall to the ground and continue to tussle, get up, take aim and shoot a running man in the back?

Now Jaylan may well be handicapped.

[Chin music]

11. Whoa. My thoughts exactly.

[whistler162]

27. Might be a relative or friend and the idiot with a gun

had more respect for the reasons behind Handicapped parking slots than the Amazon driver did.

Two stupid people making stupid decisions for stupid reasons. One is charged with a crime and one is in serious condition in the hospital.

[alwaysinasnit]

7. Can someone explain to me why this isn't a case of attempted murder?

[uponit7771]

15. +1, seeing he shot him in the back and it was above the waste

[NutmegYankee]

20. It doesn't matter if it's above or below waist. A bullet in any artery can kill.

Even the arm.

[pintobean]

29. Missouri doesn't have a charge of attempted murder

First-degree assault is the equivalent.

[Dennis Donovan]

9. "The page says he has no health insurance..."

"The page says he has no health insurance and set a $50,000 goal for assisting in his recovery. He works for a third-party provider that delivers for Amazon."

How is it that, in 1982, I entered the workforce as a 16 year old bag boy at the local P&C and had better health insurance than I have now???

My point being - I was a bag boy and had health insurance. Everyone did. How did we get here, to a point where millions are without coverage??

[DirtEdonE]

19. The same way we got to a point where

Millions are without pensions.

Greedy repubican liars who have about 1/3 of the population so bullshitted they vote against themselves every time.

[3Hotdogs]

13. But does the employer have Workmens Comp insurance?

[defacto7]

14. Shoot a black man in the back - 47 months

[uponit7771]

17. +1

[DirtEdonE]

18. Yep. For sure if you're in front of "judge" ellis - and white nt

[Oneironaut]

21. Another man successfully lives the NRA-endorsed gun hero fantasy

where you "neutralize" (Shoot in the back) a "bad guy" (A "scary" non-white person the NRA warns you about).

[whistler162]

24. Better headline Amazon driver makes ass out of self

and gets shot by a idiot after arguing/tussling with the idiot!

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/amazon-driver-shot-in-st-charles-by-man-accused-of/article_e43b8541-a896-5343-9829-d504fd5aa784.html

TLDR : Amazon driver parked illegally in a Handicapped spot has it recorded/pointed out by other driver instead of calling the police and Amazon. The two argue/tussle not-Amazon driver pulls gun and shoots Amazon driver.

[Red Mountain]

30. Yes

The Amazon driver was in a handicapped spot. Probably should drug test him, too. And see if he has any unpaid library fines.

Anything to divert attention from the fact that the old guy shot him down in cold blood.


Old guy never would have started anything if he wasn't carrying. See? Guns DO kill people.

[ProfessorGAC]

34. So He Gets To Be Shot In The Back?

While vacating the hot zone?
Not seeing your logic.
That is even though I loathe people who park in reserved spots when they're not entitled

[VOX]

25. Melt 'em all down.

[Soxfan58]

26. Guns

A cowards best friend!!!!

[getagrip_already]

31. Why doesn't Amazon provide health insurance to its drivers?

Or warehouse workers?

They made record profits last year. They intentionally limit the hours these employees work to keep them part time and without benefits, yet they have enough work to easily hire full time workers.

They put such heavy pressure on them - measuring them to tenths of a minute per stop - that the drivers are forced to park illegally in most cases to keep delivery time low. Metrics drive every position at amazon. If tou fall behind they can your ass.

So don't blame the driver for using a handicapped spot. Blame amazon. Also blame the store for not having a delivery area the driver could use.

Corporations are responsible for the conduct, and well being of their employees while on the job. They should be paying all medical expenses directly. crickets. Oh, that will be $108 for the damaged uniform.

[csziggy]

32. The driver was not in a time crunch according to the article

The dispute began just before noon outside the store at 3881 Mexico Road, police said. Walker had illegally parked his delivery van in a handicapped-accessible parking spot and was talking to the driver of a different Amazon van.

Thomlison pulled out a cellphone to photograph the illegally parked delivery van, and posted the image to social media, according to charges.

Then Thomlison, who was driving a car with a handicapped placard, confronted Walker about the parking spot, charges say. He put his phone “in the face of” the Amazon driver in an attempt to photograph him. Walker pushed the phone away and Thomlison punched the driver, charges say.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/amazon-driver-shot-in-st-charles-by-man-accused-of/article_e43b8541-a896-5343-9829-d504fd5aa784.html

That said, even though Walker was parked illegally Thomlison had no right to directly confront him and definitely should not have shot him.

I do find it ironic that Walker will now have the right to use handicapped spaces.

[getagrip_already]

35. it doesn't say that...

It says he was talking to another driver. We don't know he wasn't in a time crunch, or what he was talking about. But we do know amazon puts their drivers under incredible time pressure. So much so they drop deliveries if they fall behind and then penalize them.

It is a high pressure job. Everything is timed. Everything is captured. If drivers werre talking, they were doing it for amazon, not chit chatting.