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Transcript of the recording Rep. Omar released in support of her claim (Original Post) lapucelle Mar 2019 OP
That's not going to help her. CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #1
It seems to prove that the story was accurate and that Omar's charge of distortion was not. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #3
Yep. Not only was it not distorted, listening to it again I think it was worse kcr Mar 2019 #7
That is how I heard her message ChazII Mar 2019 #89
This context does not help her like she seems to think it does. hughee99 Mar 2019 #18
I'm certain apologies will begin rolling in soon from everyone who responded to the distortions... RockRaven Mar 2019 #2
Why would anyone apologize? BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #15
Omar tweeted "I'm an Obama fan!" shortly thereafter. Yeah, no. John Fante Mar 2019 #4
+1 Hassler Mar 2019 #5
With friend like this, who needs enemies? CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #8
+1 Peacetrain Mar 2019 #9
SNAP SNAP!! Cha Mar 2019 #29
No shit?!! Cha Mar 2019 #20
She knows she fucked up. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #24
Yeah, she fucked it up.. but how on Cha Mar 2019 #25
I guess she's a sucker for a pretty face and smile. TeamPooka Mar 2019 #70
Who needs enemies, Omar? She deletes her tweet. Cha Mar 2019 #73
This the same Ralph Nader false equivalency bullshit. Glad she isn't my Representative still_one Mar 2019 #6
Both parties same but Democrats are worse, the more perfidious warmongers. Be not complacent! betsuni Mar 2019 #10
She is the Republicans best campaign ad. And Hayes going against Pelosi dem4decades Mar 2019 #11
Disappointed about Hayes. kcr Mar 2019 #12
They've both been there 2 months, and they think they know everything. dem4decades Mar 2019 #16
What is this supposed to mean? lapucelle Mar 2019 #51
What did Hayes say blue cat Mar 2019 #78
Are you talking about Chris Hayes or Jahanna Hayes? I haven't heard her say anything and.... George II Mar 2019 #62
Disappointing ripcord Mar 2019 #13
Primary her...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #14
Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #17
Well said. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2019 #19
What was "well said"? Cha Mar 2019 #26
Must not have been. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #46
Right.. Not that "well said". Cha Mar 2019 #72
"immigration policy was no better under BHO than under GWB" TwilightZone Mar 2019 #21
Except when "truth to power" is bullshit BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #22
Yeah, Omar's statement on Pres Obama was Cha Mar 2019 #27
Word up, Cha! BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #30
Mahalo, BL! Cha Mar 2019 #31
I tried giving her the benefit of the doubt but I'm starting to think she's a lost cause. jcmaine72 Mar 2019 #23
I bet the Politico reporter is glad Omar posted her self-recording. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #53
Mahalo for doing the research, lapucelle! Cha Mar 2019 #28
I didn't want to listen because frankly I've heard enough from her this week. lapucelle Mar 2019 #48
Strong stomach, too! Cha Mar 2019 #68
I wonder if MFM008 Mar 2019 #32
KICK! Cha Mar 2019 #33
Again, some people don't think even their own quotes are real. betsuni Mar 2019 #34
This "shoot the messenger" attempt was so ineffective that she deleted the tweet. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #52
Seems to me what was reported was accurate Raine Mar 2019 #35
It sure seemed accurately reported to me. SunSeeker Mar 2019 #38
I feel that many Independents also feel the same about Obama dustyscamp Mar 2019 #36
What? they believe the LIES? Cha Mar 2019 #37
These people are too apathetic to look into why Obama did what he did and buy into the bothsideisms dustyscamp Mar 2019 #40
Ha. Maybe "bothsideisms " is a word to get through to them lostnfound Mar 2019 #47
I wonder why Omar appended lapucelle Mar 2019 #54
I would post the actual tweet, but it's been deleted. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #55
I don't know, it didn't work.. here's her tweet that lives on.. Cha Mar 2019 #69
If I went by the comments here... tonedevil Mar 2019 #39
Who's the polished guy who got away with murder? Carrito Mar 2019 #41
Ilhan Omar Backtracks After Calling Obama a "Pretty Face" Who "Got Away with Murder" Cha Mar 2019 #42
This cannot be repeated enough. All American presidents will use drone warfare. betsuni Mar 2019 #45
She keeps being "misunderstood," and yet I'm not sympathetic. Hortensis Mar 2019 #43
I don't know what the distortion was, I haven't followed, but that transcript is horrible. musicblind Mar 2019 #44
So what she said was NOT mischaracterized in the Politico report. These are the VERY SAME WORDS... George II Mar 2019 #49
It sure seems that way. lapucelle Mar 2019 #50
I believe she'll have a very short career. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #56
I hope she has a short career. murielm99 Mar 2019 #57
We don't need anyone distracting from our 2020 message lapucelle Mar 2019 #58
BS says it too. Along with Stein-voting Sarandon and Nader-voting Moore and Stein-voting Turner. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #60
I hope the rest of it is from Sgent Mar 2019 #95
Dear lord. awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #59
OMG ... she is being disingenuous and venomous forklift Mar 2019 #61
Why did she delete the tweet that contained that? George II Mar 2019 #63
It didn't serve her narrative in the way she thought it would. lapucelle Mar 2019 #64
So, she spoke without thinking it through, then posted her rationale without thinking it through... George II Mar 2019 #65
And she also appears to have accused the reporter of distorting her words lapucelle Mar 2019 #75
Here it is, lapucelle.. Mahalo for your OP! Cha Mar 2019 #67
So, Omar deleted the tweet? Oh wait.. here it is.. Cha Mar 2019 #66
I'm so glad that the congresswoman posted the audio... lapucelle Mar 2019 #71
She needs to think more and talk less right now mcar Mar 2019 #74
I See Someone Making a Valid Criticism wellst0nev0ter Mar 2019 #76
Then why did the congresswoman delete the tweet accusing the journalist of distortion? N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #77
She wanted to present her side of the story wellst0nev0ter Mar 2019 #79
She said what she said, and her words speak for themselves. lapucelle Mar 2019 #80
Yes, her words certainly does wellst0nev0ter Mar 2019 #81
People both listened and read the transcript. There is nothing "innacurate" about listening to lapucelle Mar 2019 #83
Exactly, lapucelle.. Cha Mar 2019 #82
The Politico story presented the wording EXACTLY the same as the wording.... George II Mar 2019 #87
kick nt forklift Mar 2019 #84
I know.. let's see what politicians defend Cha Mar 2019 #85
Has she explained what she really meant if she didn't mean what she said? betsuni Mar 2019 #86
She can't explain it away forklift Mar 2019 #88
Looks like it. betsuni Mar 2019 #91
Not very well, imo.. Cha Mar 2019 #90
Hmmm, so nothing new. betsuni Mar 2019 #92
Right.. she didn't flippantly Cha Mar 2019 #93
False equivalency with Republicans delivered with a Hortensis Mar 2019 #94

kcr

(15,317 posts)
7. Yep. Not only was it not distorted, listening to it again I think it was worse
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 09:38 PM
Mar 2019

It really comes across as Obama is just a prettier, more polished murderer.

ChazII

(6,205 posts)
89. That is how I heard her message
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 12:40 AM
Mar 2019

that Pres. Obama was a more polished murder. Glad to know that I am not alone.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
18. This context does not help her like she seems to think it does.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:57 PM
Mar 2019

And she doesn’t seem to recognize that.

BannonsLiver

(16,396 posts)
15. Why would anyone apologize?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:19 PM
Mar 2019

She said what she said and now she’s seeing that those words have consequences. She’s the one who needs to be rocking the contrition, not those of us who support President Obama. So no, there won’t be any Fucking apologies forthcoming on this end because there are no apologies warranted here.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
25. Yeah, she fucked it up.. but how on
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 01:17 AM
Mar 2019

Earth does she think she can get away with saying it was "distorted" when there's receipts that say otherwise?

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
10. Both parties same but Democrats are worse, the more perfidious warmongers. Be not complacent!
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:08 PM
Mar 2019

Really the only way to read it. Typical Justice Democrat nonsense, that the true roadblock to nice things is the Democratic Party status quo blah blah blah blah.

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
11. She is the Republicans best campaign ad. And Hayes going against Pelosi
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:29 PM
Mar 2019

Makes my blood boil. It won't take that many seats to flip for us to be back in the minority and then all is lost.

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
16. They've both been there 2 months, and they think they know everything.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 11:24 PM
Mar 2019

Pelosi deserves better. So do we.

George II

(67,782 posts)
62. Are you talking about Chris Hayes or Jahanna Hayes? I haven't heard her say anything and....
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:12 PM
Mar 2019

....I don't watch Chris Hayes, I can't stomach him.

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
21. "immigration policy was no better under BHO than under GWB"
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 12:01 AM
Mar 2019

She didn't compare him to Bush. She compared him to Trump.

You think Obama's policy was better than Trump's? That would be the relevant question.

As for the continuation of the drone program, even Sanders said he would continue it.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/11/bernie-sanders-drones-counter-terror

If you're going to suggest that others step out of their bubbles, you might want to do the same. "Both sides" is bullshit, regardless of the source. Always has been.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
27. Yeah, Omar's statement on Pres Obama was
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 01:22 AM
Mar 2019

so "truth to power".. she's now saying it was "distorted"? Which it wasn't.

So what is the truth, Omar?



"They only seperated families when it was determined that the children would be in danger in prison, and the parent couldn't be released due to criminal charges. They always placed children either with relatives or sponsors who were thouroughly vetted."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11901011

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
48. I didn't want to listen because frankly I've heard enough from her this week.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 AM
Mar 2019

I'm glad I did.

I miss Keith Ellison in that seat.

Mahalo, my friend!

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
38. It sure seemed accurately reported to me.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 04:55 AM
Mar 2019

She says Obama caged kids. That is a lie and a Trump talking point.

Inexcusable.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
37. What? they believe the LIES?
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 04:53 AM
Mar 2019



"They only seperated families when it was determined that the children would be in danger in prison, and the parent couldn't be released due to criminal charges. They always placed children either with relatives or sponsors who were thouroughly vetted."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=11901011

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
40. These people are too apathetic to look into why Obama did what he did and buy into the bothsideisms
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:13 AM
Mar 2019

lostnfound

(16,180 posts)
47. Ha. Maybe "bothsideisms " is a word to get through to them
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 08:58 AM
Mar 2019

I know people like this. When I was in college 35 years ago, I was somewhat similar in saying that “they all do it”. Drives me crazy now because I realize we can elect the very best people like PBO and it only undermines them to criticize them that way. Old enough to know that everyone in the system has limited power to change it, from the president on down.

But those naive, virulent idealists love to extend the “isms” to everything. So sure of themselves as better than everyone.

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
54. I wonder why Omar appended
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 12:33 PM
Mar 2019

this emoji to her tweeted claim that her words were distorted by the reporter.





 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
39. If I went by the comments here...
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 04:57 AM
Mar 2019

I would be certain she would be fired by Monday. My understanding of how Congressional terms work leads me to believe she will be a thorn in some sides for another year and a half.

 

Carrito

(42 posts)
41. Who's the polished guy who got away with murder?
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:15 AM
Mar 2019

At the end of the transcript.
She refers to someone more polished than Trump who got away with murder.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
42. Ilhan Omar Backtracks After Calling Obama a "Pretty Face" Who "Got Away with Murder"
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:28 AM
Mar 2019

Snip//

Democrats didn’t abandon Omar over her comments about Israel. Her criticism of Barack Obama is another matter.


Omar says the “hope and change” offered by Barack Obama was a mirage. Recalling the “caging of kids” at the U.S.-Mexico border and the “droning of countries around the world” on Obama’s watch, she argues that the Democratic president operated within the same fundamentally broken framework as his Republican successor.

“We can’t be only upset with Trump . . . His policies are bad, but many of the people who came before him also had really bad policies. They just were more polished than he was,”

Omar says. “And that’s not what we should be looking for anymore. We don’t want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished. We want to recognize the actual policies that are behind the pretty face and the smile.”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/03/ilhan-omar-barack-obama-pretty-face

And, as long as we're having a drone conversation..

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. She keeps being "misunderstood," and yet I'm not sympathetic.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:35 AM
Mar 2019

Turns out she was being misunderstood before she ran for congress. There's a pattern here.

So her district elected someone whose statements occasionally smell of antisemitism? Not great, but she represents the people who elected her, not the Democratic Party as a whole. Except when she punches the Republicans in the nose for the right reasons, or something close to.

But she's far left (and possibly right, tbd), and I think we should get used to her also being a nuisance for the Democratic mainstream and not wig out every time it happens. The press are now clustered around her, eager for each new controversial pearl from her photogenic lips, and she's apparently eager to meet her destiny.

Meanwhile, as always, the real problem is on the right, and it's huge. Muslims and Jews killing each other is seen as foreordained by most. Some loathe both and delight. Most don't care that much but are 100% behind Jews holding a state in the Middle East for Christians to eventually take over. And that's what this is really about. Religious wars, potentially planetwide rivers of blood, over whose god gets what if sensible people don't get a leash on these types.

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
44. I don't know what the distortion was, I haven't followed, but that transcript is horrible.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 06:27 AM
Mar 2019

Just awful. As someone else said, I'm glad she isn't my representative.

George II

(67,782 posts)
49. So what she said was NOT mischaracterized in the Politico report. These are the VERY SAME WORDS...
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:20 AM
Mar 2019

....that Politico published.

"I will talk about the family separation or caging of kids and then people will point out that this was wrong. I mean this was Obama."

"We don't want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished."

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
50. It sure seems that way.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 12:08 PM
Mar 2019

This looks like a "Lordy, I hope there are tapes" moment fulfilled for the reporter who she claimed had distorted her words.

Rep. Omar has since deleted the tweet along with the link to her "Exhibit A" evidence.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1104116455224807424

I'm glad there are screenshots of the deleted tweet and a transcript and copies of her self-recording.

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
58. We don't need anyone distracting from our 2020 message
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 01:29 PM
Mar 2019

with the ridiculous "both parties are the same" narritive that was stoked in 2016.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
60. BS says it too. Along with Stein-voting Sarandon and Nader-voting Moore and Stein-voting Turner.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 01:47 PM
Mar 2019

I'm sick of the divisive lies. It's simply NOT TRUE that the Democrats are "the party of the elite". It's a LIE to claim that the Democrats are the "party for the one percent".

All I'm saying is that the lies only serve to divide and weaken the Democratic party... and a weakened Democratic party only serves to benefit the GOP, and Trump, and RUSSIA!

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
95. I hope the rest of it is from
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 05:02 AM
Mar 2019

the outside looking in.

I don't want her forming Democratic policy. Let her and Stephen King fight it out on their committee of two.

 

forklift

(401 posts)
61. OMG ... she is being disingenuous and venomous
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 03:30 PM
Mar 2019

on top of being naive and ill-informed.

So which one of the following options she would have chosen?

1. Let the terrorists roam free, unhindered, and attack our troops and our allied people at every opportunity.

2. Do a massive ground operation with full air support and kill thousands of civilians and a few hundred Americans to kill a handful of terrorists.

3. Use targeted drones which were 98% effective and killed only a few civilians without risking American lives.




She wants Option 1 because it is a culture of peace in a land of milk and honey and nice people all around.

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
64. It didn't serve her narrative in the way she thought it would.
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:28 PM
Mar 2019

She posted the audio as "Exhibit A' evidence that the reporter "distorted" her words. Nobody but the congresswoman saw the alleged distortion.

George II

(67,782 posts)
65. So, she spoke without thinking it through, then posted her rationale without thinking it through...
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 05:41 PM
Mar 2019

We seem to have a trend here.

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
75. And she also appears to have accused the reporter of distorting her words
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 09:36 PM
Mar 2019

without thinking that through either.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
66. So, Omar deleted the tweet? Oh wait.. here it is..
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 06:13 PM
Mar 2019

Internet forever..



I was just going to say..

"Not a good sign to back up her story of "distortion".

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
71. I'm so glad that the congresswoman posted the audio...
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 08:03 PM
Mar 2019

... and the writer of the story is probably relieved. Any gaslighting concerning "distortions" were put to rest by the recording and a transcript of the congresswoman's actual words in full context.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
76. I See Someone Making a Valid Criticism
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 09:52 PM
Mar 2019

of Barack Obama (unaccompanied minors WERE caged during his administration), but it was interpreted by an unsympathetic beltway journalist as another "Dems in Disarray" story.

I swear there's no space to criticize anything, unless we add a lengthy preamble to every utterance.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
79. She wanted to present her side of the story
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 10:22 PM
Mar 2019

but realized people, like yourself, are going to see her quotes in the worst possible light no matter how they're presented and despite any facts. And the politico story juiced it up as another Dems in Disarray shiny object for us to feast on, so she decided to just take the oxygen out of the fake controversy.

lapucelle

(18,270 posts)
83. People both listened and read the transcript. There is nothing "innacurate" about listening to
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 10:49 PM
Mar 2019

and reading the congresswoman's exact words.



Cha

(297,300 posts)
82. Exactly, lapucelle..
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 10:35 PM
Mar 2019

that was tried on me.

"Omar didn't say what she said.. even only people could listen better.."

George II

(67,782 posts)
87. The Politico story presented the wording EXACTLY the same as the wording....
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:47 PM
Mar 2019

....that was in the recording as posted by Congresswoman Omar in a tweet. I suspect that is why she subsequently deleted that tweet.

No "juicing up" whatsoever.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
85. I know.. let's see what politicians defend
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:09 PM
Mar 2019

her disparaging remarks against President Obama.

Now she's on the defensive.. she could have made her points without her hateful untrue digs thrown at President Obama.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
90. Not very well, imo..
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:18 AM
Mar 2019

snip//

"After many took Omar's comments as a harsh critique of Obama, who remains widely popular across the Democratic Party, she took to Twitter to clarify the comments, writing, "I'm an Obama fan! I was saying how Trump is different from Obama, and why we should focus on policy not politics."

In a March 2018 Quinnpiac Poll 49 percent of Democrats ranked Obama as the best president the United States has had since World War II."

https://abc13.com/rep-ilhan-omar-says-her-criticism-of-president-obama-was-distorted/5178653/

Weird. Words Matter and she can say "I'm an Obama fan" but it doesn't compute with why she would say those ugly untrue things about him.

It sounded very personal.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
92. Hmmm, so nothing new.
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 01:31 AM
Mar 2019

I didn't know anything about her, thought she was new to politics but turns out she isn't.

Cha

(297,300 posts)
93. Right.. she didn't flippantly
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 02:33 AM
Mar 2019

"clarify" anything.

And yeah, I just found out she's not new to politics.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
94. False equivalency with Republicans delivered with a
Sun Mar 10, 2019, 04:23 AM
Mar 2019

wordy padding of rhetoric that actually reinforces it. Republicans atrocities are "just more polished" than Obama's and others "who came before" Trump and this Republican congress?

That's not just extremism talking, it's stupid and dishonest.

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