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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNewsweek: Ilhan Omar attacks Barack Obama..
Is this real?..This was published today. I have tried to check this out..YOu can hit this link and check it out yourself. Why? Is this person referring to Barack Obama?
from the above article:
We cant be only upset with Trump, she told Politico. His policies are bad, but many of the people who came before him also had really bad policies. They just were more polished than he was, Omar says. And thats not what we should be looking for anymore. We dont want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished. We want to recognize the actual policies that are behind the pretty face and the smile.
https://www.newsweek.com/ilhan-omar-barack-obama-cages-drones-1356997
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)I like to think she's playing 3D chess with the Repugs - forcing them to agree with her.
Well, that's my turd polish for the day.
pnwmom
(108,997 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)Stuart G
(38,449 posts)Is this Democratic representative knocking Obama? I guess she can. But I am not sure that is what we need today. But that is an opinion.
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)or Reagan or Hoover or Martin Van Buran. No way to know.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,448 posts)TwilightZone
(25,485 posts)From the Politico article referenced:
"As she saw it, the party ostensibly committed to progressive values had become complicit in perpetuating the status quo. Omar says the hope and change offered by Barack Obama was a mirage. Recalling the caging of kids at the U.S.-Mexico border and the droning of countries around the world on Obamas watch, she argues that the Democratic president operated within the same fundamentally broken framework as his Republican successor.
We cant be only upset with Trump.
His policies are bad, but many of the people who came before him also had really bad policies. They just were more polished than he was, Omar says. And thats not what we should be looking for anymore. We dont want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished. We want to recognize the actual policies that are behind the pretty face and the smile."
Pretty clear.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/08/ilhan-omar-dean-phillips-minnesota-democratic-party-225696
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)She needs some decent staff and some self restraint.
BeyondGeography
(39,383 posts)Take a few policies you have an issue with and give the impression that were talking about two very similar people at the end of the day, Trump and Obama. This is so many degrees of wrong I dont know where to begin.
Stuart G
(38,449 posts)This representative, if I am understanding correctly, has put these two people on an equal footing.
Trump and Obama are totally unequal. So many differences that there is not enough room to discuss them. But why would any Democrat do something like this. Does she understand what she has said in this interview?
Is there going to be an apology?
Dennis Donovan
(18,770 posts)Similar policies (because the Pentagon has run the day to day ops under both POTUSes), but the men could not be more diametrically opposed. The epitome of Good and Evil, IMO...
BeyondGeography
(39,383 posts)Not the fine print stuff either, you know, like democracy, the rule of law, equal rights, voting rights, climate change, gun control, fiscal policy...
msongs
(67,453 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,470 posts)Anyone who has a problem with that, or him, can kiss my
Hassler
(3,390 posts)Would be swift and appropriate. So why is she saying it about Obama? Or are we to believe she's referring to Dumbya?
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dalton99a
(81,599 posts)ComradeFunk
(21 posts)this is dumb politics on her part. You don't attack the most popular Democrat without anger from constituents
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Does she know nothing about the Tea Party history? Or everything?
The Tea Party was a undisciplined (and bigoted) right wing populist anger that was secretly harnessed and directed by agents of the KOCH BROTHERS and turned against themselves -- and of course us. Until the Kochs couldn't control them any more, formation of the "Tea Party" to defeat liberal progressivism -- and themselves -- was the Koch alliance's great coup.
After they had to pull their support, the populist Tea Party dissolved and morphed into the populist Trump movement, with a few in the populist Sanders movement. Most of their wealth-backed reps are now no longer in congress, but some of those hard-right conservatives, who depend on pleasing the ultrawealthy backers they supposedly despised, are still there. They don't have to please constituents or party leaders, only their donors, and they spend most of their energy fighting mainstream Republicans for power.
This tea party remnant in the house is the far-right group who call themselves the Freedom Caucus, lead by Jim Jordan who lost to Kevin McCarthy -- who is actually LESS extremist! These ruthlessly uncooperative and unprincipled power seekers pride themselves on their rigid hard-right principles and refusal to cooperate to succeed.
And this is what Omar is comparing her group to? "The Squad" also includes Rashida Tlaib, Ocasio-Cortez, and Ayanna Pressley.
I'm afraid her doubling down on the formal condemnation of her remarks with condemnation of President Obama and now comparing her "squad" to a left-wing version of obstructionist right-wing extremists may be a bad sign for the Democratic Party. Let's hope this is just more undisciplined acting out. But if so, let's hope it's a bad sign for her. Squabbling and eating each other is the most common end for radical/extremist groups.
rollin74
(1,990 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)more than the "populist" Trump, whose alt-right movement is viewed sypathetically, as misguided folk who are simply oppressed by globalism etc.
The alt-left/Justice Dems/Greens/DSA, like the alt-right/teaparty, want to transform Western establishment parties into something that resembles the socialist (Corbyn, etc) and fascist (Le Pen, etc) parties of Europe - all who ultimately answer to Putin.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)The Newsweek headline is dishonest.
forklift
(401 posts)that Ms. Omar's allegation of dueal-loyalties was a projection of her own self.
She seems to have a loyalty to every Muslim world grievance and instead of being nuanced about it, she is using a sledgehammer to the very people who have been sympathetic to her cause - such as Barack Obama, both of whose fathers were Muslim.
President Obama was not just "polished" but he had an in-depth understanding of the issues and he was never one-sided and he was humble before the Muslim world in Egypt and ruthless when he had to take out bin Laden. Ms. Omar only wants it her way without taking into account both sides' arguments.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)She seems to spout Muslim victimhood-speak at every possible chance. It will be easy for Faux Snooze to paint her as a would-be terrorist during the next election.
radius777
(3,635 posts)The Truman Doctrine, which sees no moral equivalence between pro-West and anti-West actors, has been the basis of our foreign policy for 70+ years.
The world is a messy place, and Dem presidents have generally been strong, but fair and even handed.
Aussie105
(5,437 posts)that the personality cult often invoked in politics needs to be tamed.
All previous presidents had a certain charm and self confidence about them, but how does that impact their actual policies?
Two separate things altogether. Some may not see that.
In short - I'd rather go to a short, ugly dentist or motor mechanic who is fully competent at his job, rather than one who looks great, has good customer relations manners, but is bad at his fundamental job.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)The country is facing serious issues right now. Like the presidency being in the hands of a Russian agent.
There is no reason why anyone needs to tolerate Omar's petty bullshit.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,714 posts)"A pretty face might last a year or two."
Barack Obama was a demigod. He deserves respect.