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Kablooie

(18,641 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:34 PM Mar 2019

Judge Ellis was a noted Trump supporter back in 2018.

A look at President Trump's new favorite judge
May 18, 2018

It was just over a week ago that President Donald Trump and his legal team in their eyes got vindication -- a federal judge that questioned the scope of special counsel Robert Mueller's now one-year-old probe. The judge, T.S. Ellis, questioned the scope of the probe as he presided over a second case involving former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who faces a 32-count indictment in the Eastern District of Virginia in addition to another mountain of charges in a D.C. federal court. Manafort has pleaded not guilty to all charges.


Trump, who has openly bashed federal judges in the past, pounced on the possible turn of events for his former top adviser, saying in a speech to the National Rifle Association that evening, “Just when I’m walking on the stage, a highly respected judge in Virginia made statements.”


He was biased from the start. He should have recused himself.

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trumps-favorite-judge/story?id=55249937
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Judge Ellis was a noted Trump supporter back in 2018. (Original Post) Kablooie Mar 2019 OP
I agree. He should have recused himself. I wonder if the prosecution will appeal? NT SWBTATTReg Mar 2019 #1
The prosecutors can appeal a sentence but only under limited circumstances - The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #5
What would it take for Congress to conduct an investigation -- would something like this qualify? diva77 Mar 2019 #10
What's the evidence Ellis was compromised? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #11
Compromised, maybe, maybe not. But biased seems to be defacto7 Mar 2019 #14
He seems to dislike prosecutors in general and the Manafort prosecutors in particular. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #16
wouldn't be a surprise if something concrete made the judge go easy on Manafort, but, as you say, diva77 Mar 2019 #20
If true, then prosecutors CAN appeal the sentence. 47 months is well below the mandatory minimum, Eyeball_Kid Mar 2019 #15
The guidelines are just that - guidelines. There are no mandatory minimum sentences The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #18
Kick dalton99a Mar 2019 #2
How long before the bribe is exposed duforsure Mar 2019 #3
If the judge shows up with an ostrich jacket, we will know for sure. deminks Mar 2019 #4
I wonder if we will ever edhopper Mar 2019 #6
Lots of new "judges" moondust Mar 2019 #8
I still have my fingers crossed for next week. ooky Mar 2019 #9
Republicans have both feet on the scales klook Mar 2019 #7
Power wins over justice, again. Our system has been broken by the Rusky Rupublicons ffr Mar 2019 #12
Let me translate for the uninformed: when Trump says "highly respected" he means "in my pocket." Still In Wisconsin Mar 2019 #13
We can no longer expect any repubican to do "the right thing" no pun intended DirtEdonE Mar 2019 #17
He should also be questioning the scope of HIS upcoming 'probe'. sprinkleeninow Mar 2019 #19

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
5. The prosecutors can appeal a sentence but only under limited circumstances -
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:47 PM
Mar 2019

for example, if the sentence given was less than a mandatory minimum. If the sentence is within the sentencing guidelines they really don't have much to go on.

diva77

(7,660 posts)
10. What would it take for Congress to conduct an investigation -- would something like this qualify?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:12 PM
Mar 2019

How do compromised people keep getting away with not recusing themselves?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
11. What's the evidence Ellis was compromised?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:23 PM
Mar 2019

The remedy for a "compromised" federal judge is impeachment, which has happened a few times, usually in cases where judges were found to have been taking bribes. The fact that Ellis gave Manafort an unexpectedly lenient sentence isn't evidence that he is compromised without something else indicating he did it for a corrupt reason. Lawyers can move for recusal after a judge is assigned, and Ellis is known to be an eccentric old crank, but as far as I know the prosecutors didn't do that.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
14. Compromised, maybe, maybe not. But biased seems to be
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:14 PM
Mar 2019

the general consensus and pretty obvious to me. Where would that fit or is it too late? Maybe it wouldn't make a difference since he stayed within parameters. Maybe it's not worth the effort now.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
16. He seems to dislike prosecutors in general and the Manafort prosecutors in particular.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:18 PM
Mar 2019

But he's pushing 80 and is on senior status, which means he's semi-retired and takes cases as needed. Many senior judges choose not to take a full case load; I don't know whether Ellis does. In any event, considering his age and senior status he's not likely to pick up additional controversial cases.

diva77

(7,660 posts)
20. wouldn't be a surprise if something concrete made the judge go easy on Manafort, but, as you say,
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:49 PM
Mar 2019

there has to be evidence.



Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
15. If true, then prosecutors CAN appeal the sentence. 47 months is well below the mandatory minimum,
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:16 PM
Mar 2019

if the guidelines can be interpreted as such.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,869 posts)
18. The guidelines are just that - guidelines. There are no mandatory minimum sentences
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:20 PM
Mar 2019

for Manafort's crimes as there are for some other crimes (large-scale drug trafficking, for example), just recommended ones.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
13. Let me translate for the uninformed: when Trump says "highly respected" he means "in my pocket."
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:06 PM
Mar 2019

Yeah, under normal ethical procedures he should have recused. But he's a Trumpist, so why would he adhere to any ethical code?

I'm surprised he didn't let Manafort off with time served.

 

DirtEdonE

(1,220 posts)
17. We can no longer expect any repubican to do "the right thing" no pun intended
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 04:18 PM
Mar 2019

Because they've just forgotten how.

Remember the original Invasion of the Body Snatchers? The repubicans all fell asleep. I don't think they're really human anymore.

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