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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,199 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 12:30 PM Mar 2019

Congratulations are in order to the Honorable Judge T.S. Ellis.

Your words "otherwise blameless life" uttered to a man who spent decades propping up brutal strongmen around the world before helping to interfere with our own elections are now your complete legacy as a jurist.

That's the only thing people will ever remember you for.

Those three words.

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Congratulations are in order to the Honorable Judge T.S. Ellis. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2019 OP
yes, "otherwise blameless life", well, aside from all the other charges in another court... unblock Mar 2019 #1
And that little blurb about Chin music Mar 2019 #26
You have nailed it. MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #2
he had decided long in advance what he was going to do. from the start. EveHammond13 Mar 2019 #5
Had to do a bump probably. Chin music Mar 2019 #27
Why has Manafort led an otherwise *unconvicted* life? lostnfound Mar 2019 #3
I wondered that as well. xxqqqzme Mar 2019 #7
Why did Rick Scott not go to jail, watoos Mar 2019 #14
Good title, then saaad as our orange buffoon would say? Hortensis Mar 2019 #25
I screen shot your post and read it twice. Great post. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #31
Really a great post True Blue American Mar 2019 #37
Ellis has Managed to Soil his Own Legacy dlk Mar 2019 #4
He had a legacy ? OnDoutside Mar 2019 #42
It time to bring Justice back to our system mikeysnot Mar 2019 #6
Very true Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #8
Meanwhile, Traitor McConnell is stuffing the courts with more judges like Ellis. OMGWTF Mar 2019 #9
Live an "Otherwise blameless life" econron Mar 2019 #10
Ellis is the model judge Moscow Mitch McTurd-le is busy jamming onto the federal bench. Hassler Mar 2019 #11
Didn't manafort help brutal dictators duforsure Mar 2019 #12
He certainly did, in partnership with some others. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #22
Just as scummy as Brock Turner's Judge dustyscamp Mar 2019 #13
And another thing......... MyOwnPeace Mar 2019 #15
He outed himself, as did the jurist who cut a deal with Epstein. They exist. Now we know wiggs Mar 2019 #16
They are the true DEEP STATE rotting out Democracy from within DemocracyMouse Mar 2019 #18
We keep having these travesties of justice and yet they don't fix it. pdsimdars Mar 2019 #17
Who exactly is supposed to "fix" this ruling, and how exactly are they supposed to do it? ehrnst Mar 2019 #21
Yes, and how long have we been hearing outrage about different rulings? pdsimdars Mar 2019 #23
"When was the last time they made changes to the judicial system?" ehrnst Mar 2019 #24
We now know ,,,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2019 #19
Well put! Those in power love the powerful. Nitram Mar 2019 #20
I am not religious, but I really hope there is a fiery hell and that they all burn smirkymonkey Mar 2019 #28
I am True Blue American Mar 2019 #38
They are words that will definitely live in infamy. Pepsidog Mar 2019 #29
"Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?" n/t Different Drummer Mar 2019 #30
"OTHERWISE BLAMELESS LIFE"????? vapor2 Mar 2019 #32
KICK orangecrush Mar 2019 #33
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #34
This judge must never be allowed to live this down. nt Progressive Jones Mar 2019 #35
The otherwise honorable judge Ellis dalton99a Mar 2019 #36
Gaslit Judge Ellis.. his vapid attempt Cha Mar 2019 #39
Let us see what William Barr True Blue American Mar 2019 #40
Is there such a thing as anti-congratulations? nitpicker Mar 2019 #41
i think hes auditioning for SCOTUS samnsara Mar 2019 #43
When this guy gets exposed duforsure Mar 2019 #44
"otherwise blameless life" Those 3 words are "one basic lie"! bluestarone Mar 2019 #45

Chin music

(23,002 posts)
26. And that little blurb about
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:04 PM
Mar 2019

cheating 340 million people out of 4(?) years of their life. I feel so bad for Manafort.....and that otherwise sterling character.

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
2. You have nailed it.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 12:59 PM
Mar 2019

And to think he actually took a break and stepped off the bench before announcing sentence.

lostnfound

(16,191 posts)
3. Why has Manafort led an otherwise *unconvicted* life?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:14 PM
Mar 2019

Wtf is wrong with our government that propping up brutal strongmem for decades — and tax evasion — was either not detected or not investigated or not prosecuted until NOW?

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
7. I wondered that as well.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:42 PM
Mar 2019

Listening to his life of scum-baggery last night, how was all his scum-baggery allowed for so long.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
14. Why did Rick Scott not go to jail,
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:04 PM
Mar 2019

instead the good people of Florida elected him to 2 terms as governor and just elected him to the Senate?

Being a crook is a badge of honor for Republicans.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
25. Good title, then saaad as our orange buffoon would say?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 03:46 PM
Mar 2019

But there is an explanation.

Our nation as a whole shifted to the right (more conservative) 40 years ago. People'd gotten tired of the liberal-dominated New Deal era and looked for "change." And with it, new majorities elected conservatives to control a majority of our governments. And it's been downhill ever since.

Not coincidentally, our national wealth had started exploding due to technological advances, but most of it was increasingly channeled into the pockets of the new centimillionaire and billionaire classes that exploded into being with it. Many conservatives among them have since been using their tremendous power to grow and entrench more conservative, more anti-regulation, more anti-democracy, more corrupt government like a cancer.

The internet is not conservative, but ruthless conservatives have done a fantastic job of turning it into a huge new weapon and aiming it at democracies around the planet, including ours.

Last, also not coincidentally at all, when strong conservative Reagan was elected strong conservative T.S. Ellis was given a lifetime appointment to one of the courts where he could be most useful in helping protect affluent white collar criminals from being treated like criminals.

And here we are. Strong conservatives are proven in this, as in other, eras to be unfit to run nations, unless the goal is to run them into the ground. Thanks mainly to manipulations by the ultrawealthy, and too many feckless citizens, liberals and other opponents of corrupt government have never gotten enough power for long enough since to reverse that tide.

Anyway, that's my explanation for what's wrong with our government. Or stated from a different point of view, not enough of US voted to stop conservatives from doing their best to destroy a really good thing.

605 days to our next chance. Our HR 1 bill awaits.

True Blue American

(17,992 posts)
37. Really a great post
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 07:33 AM
Mar 2019

Hortensis! I am so heppy people like you are on our side.

We need to turn the Blue Tidal wave into a Tsunami!

OMGWTF

(3,976 posts)
9. Meanwhile, Traitor McConnell is stuffing the courts with more judges like Ellis.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:52 PM
Mar 2019

These are lifetime appointments. Dems must take back the Senate next year.

econron

(152 posts)
10. Live an "Otherwise blameless life"
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 01:52 PM
Mar 2019

I need to start wearing a t-shirt (sweatshirt) that states...

I live an otherwise blameless life with Lady Justice on it

I'm sure I would get some looks

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
12. Didn't manafort help brutal dictators
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:02 PM
Mar 2019

Who killed and brutalized people in different area's of the world? This judge calls his life blameless? He just increased the already huge turnout to vote into an even larger group now from this. Wonder if he was another Acosta , and promised a position for this, or threatened.

MyOwnPeace

(16,940 posts)
15. And another thing.........
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:13 PM
Mar 2019

We're not hearing too many complaints about "those liberal judges" these days, are we?
You know, the ones who like to take things into their own hands and do stuff like, say, ignore suggested guidelines for sentencing evil criminals..................

wiggs

(7,819 posts)
16. He outed himself, as did the jurist who cut a deal with Epstein. They exist. Now we know
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:28 PM
Mar 2019

who two of them are.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
17. We keep having these travesties of justice and yet they don't fix it.
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 02:39 PM
Mar 2019

They get on the soapbox for a while and pontificate about how horrible it is. . But is it fixed? I am tired of hearing all the fake outrage. FIX IT, those of you in power!

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
21. Who exactly is supposed to "fix" this ruling, and how exactly are they supposed to do it?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 03:12 PM
Mar 2019

And what "fake outrage" are you referring to?

I've seen action, and heard real outrage on the part of Democratic leaders.



 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
23. Yes, and how long have we been hearing outrage about different rulings?
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 03:31 PM
Mar 2019

Like that affluenza kid -- he killed someone with his car but he was rich so, oh well, how can he be expected to know better?
And who is supposed to "fix" it? Well, I think our legal system isn't set in stone, right? There have been changes made in the past. It's about time to make some changes.
The Democratic leader sound outraged, but when was the last time they made changes to the judicial system? What is the point of Democratic outrage if it doesn't lead to changes and reform?
Do you think we are helpless, at the mercy of the system as it is right now? That would be sad if there were no chance for EVOLUTION and GROWTH.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. "When was the last time they made changes to the judicial system?"
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 03:35 PM
Mar 2019

What changes to the judicial system can Democrats make - other than nominating judges, which POTUS does, and our POTUS isn't a Democrat... Can you specify what changes to "the judical system" you are talking about?

You don't seem to understand what Democratic leaders can and can't do.

So, are you answering my question about "who is faking the outrage?" with Democratic leadership?

What "evolution and growth" are you talking about? Can you can you be less general with the description?

What could Democratic leaders to do about the "affluenza" ruling? You seem to want to blame them for not undoing the ruling, or preventing this judge from making the ruling, but you haven't stated what it is that they could have done - just that you are mad, and have decided to be mad at Democratic leaders...

They spoke out - are you saying that was "fake outrage" too?

Do you think we are helpless, at the mercy of the system as it is right now?


Are we still talking about judges and sentencing? I'm frustrated too, but I don't wring my hands over what can't be changed - which includes that ruling on affluenza.

There have been changes made in the past. It's about time to make some changes.


What changes do you propose? You seem to think that there are some that Democrats are refusing to make - can you point them out for us?

Well, I think our legal system isn't set in stone, right?


It's not made of playdough, either. What are you referring to when you say "legal system?" Juries? Local ordinances? Specific judges? Sentencing guidelines?

Again - you seem to have this generalized anger about Democratic leaders not changing "the system" immediately when you're angry at something, and it's purposeful on the part of Democratic leaders who are "faking" outrage.



 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
28. I am not religious, but I really hope there is a fiery hell and that they all burn
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:30 PM
Mar 2019

in for eternity in it.

vapor2

(1,249 posts)
32. "OTHERWISE BLAMELESS LIFE"?????
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 10:28 PM
Mar 2019

YOUR POST IS WELL SAID AND I MAY ADD THAT THIS JUDGE NEEDS TO BE DISBARRED IMMEDIATELY. SO CRIME DOES PAY??

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
44. When this guy gets exposed
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:01 AM
Mar 2019

For giving manafort merely a slap on the wrist for his crimes, from either putin or trump ties, he'll regret his consequences if he did do that for them. He will be exposed , and those who either threatened to expose him, threatened him or his families safety, or bribed or offered some kind of a payoff from this sentence he gave him, it'll come out. I think this judge is corrupt, and like trump, he thinks he's above the law. I do suspect putin is involved in this too. Just a matter of time and they will regret what they've done. This was a pre-arranged deal it looks like more than anything else.

bluestarone

(17,059 posts)
45. "otherwise blameless life" Those 3 words are "one basic lie"!
Sat Mar 9, 2019, 11:31 AM
Mar 2019

Three words i would add here "NO RUSSIAN COLLUSION" "ANOTHER BASIC LIE" Total IDIOT!

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