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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:20 AM Mar 2019

Did Giuliani or Trump intercede with Judge Ellis on behalf of Paul Manafort?

I think it is very possible.

It was rather unusual that Manafort's attorney saw the necessity to remind everyone that there was "no collusion". Of course, Manafort colluded with the Russians. It is documented. So, why would his attorney say such a thing?

Also, the light sentence makes it easier to pardon Manafort. If he had received 19-24 years as recommended by sentencing guidelines, a pardon would look much more inappropriate.

Just my opinion, but I believe the Trump White House, thru Rudy Giuliani, had discussion with Judge Ellis. And I don't believe they had to pay him money to do their bidding. He never put any credibility into the Mueller investigation.

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Did Giuliani or Trump intercede with Judge Ellis on behalf of Paul Manafort? (Original Post) kentuck Mar 2019 OP
That judges assessment of Manafort's 'character' was beyond delusional Siwsan Mar 2019 #1
With you on that MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #8
Donnie Deutch tried to allude to this this morning on Morning Schmoe... hlthe2b Mar 2019 #2
Politicians in robes Fullduplexxx Mar 2019 #3
If he gets "the full 10" from the other judge, it becomes a different story Miles Archer Mar 2019 #4
Something stinks. I'm suspicious because the judge and Manafort had Reagan connections. Vinca Mar 2019 #5
No. He is a corrupt member of the team MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #6
He's almost 79 years old. I doubt Ilsa Mar 2019 #7
This is just a preview of things to come from the large COLGATE4 Mar 2019 #9

Siwsan

(26,298 posts)
1. That judges assessment of Manafort's 'character' was beyond delusional
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:23 AM
Mar 2019

All kinds of scenarios have been flashing though my mind. And none of them include anything even resembling something close to being logical, rational or ethical.

MaryMagdaline

(6,856 posts)
8. With you on that
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:57 AM
Mar 2019

Of all of the people who may be indicted, Manafort is the one who reeks corruption and whose entire life is nothing but corruption. He even got his children involved in the whole money laundering thing.

hlthe2b

(102,390 posts)
2. Donnie Deutch tried to allude to this this morning on Morning Schmoe...
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:23 AM
Mar 2019

Scab would not let him even discuss the possibility.

I do not put anything past Trump. Look at the level of corruption/incompetence among the justices he's nominated (and largely gotten through).

I wish someone would quietly investigate this judge.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
4. If he gets "the full 10" from the other judge, it becomes a different story
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:32 AM
Mar 2019

From a potential 24 years to 4 with Ellis...if the other judge pulled the same stunt, Manafort would get another year and a half. But if he walks away with a total of 14 years, the "pardon" goes back into the "questionable" column.

I don't think Giuliani or Trump HAD TO intercede.

I think Ellis had a distaste for Mueller and the entire investigation from day 1 and acted in his own interests.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
7. He's almost 79 years old. I doubt
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 08:57 AM
Mar 2019

Anyone had to approach him about going easy on manafort. Ellis knows what team he's on.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
9. This is just a preview of things to come from the large
Fri Mar 8, 2019, 09:01 AM
Mar 2019

number of RW judges O'Connell is determined to push through the Senate by any means possible.

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