NY State prepared to file different charges if Trump pardons Manafort

[pnwmom]

And Trump has no pardon power over state charges.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-22/new-york-is-said-to-prep-manafort-charges-if-trump-pardons-him

New York state prosecutors have put together a criminal case against Paul Manafort that they could file quickly if the former chairman of Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign receives a presidential pardon.

New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. is ready to file an array of tax and other charges against Manafort, according to two people familiar with the matter, something seen as an insurance policy should the president exercise his power to free the former aide. Skirting laws that protect defendants from being charged twice for the same offense has been one of Vance’s challenges.

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For example, New York law allows defendants who have already been convicted of evading federal taxes to be charged with the same conduct as it applies to state taxes. As a part-time resident of New York, Manafort has some exposure.

Mueller’s court filings also contain evidence of Manafort’s manipulation of his business records as part of efforts to secure bank loans. While Mueller charged bank fraud based on this conduct, Vance could hit Manafort with state charges of falsifying books and records, according to one of the people.

[RockRaven]

1. FILE THEM NOW.

It is not just a matter of guarding against a Trump pardon. If this asshole ripped off the people of New York by committing tax fraud, he should be prosecuted for it, and the people of New York should be made whole to the extent that he can be made to offer recompense.

[Stargazer09]

2. Yes!

I understand the whole “wait and see” game, particularly in guarding the state’s money for prosecuting crimes, but this guy has too many ways to slip through the cracks in the system and escape justice.

[DURHAM D]

3. File now.

Pretty sure Putin will have an airplane ready to get him out of the country the minute he walks out the prison gate.

jftr - He will be walking. The wheelchair is just a prop.

Isn't Vance the same guy who took a bribe to not charge Jared, Ivanka and the boys with some crimes?

[RockRaven]

5. Yep, same Vance. Also declined to prosecute Weinstein... and spoke in favor of Epstein... so

really a guy we can count on here, right?

[tableturner]

6. Because of all of that, he may feel the pressure to do this the correct way.

[OnDoutside]

7. I admire your youthful innocence ! However there's something seriously dodgy about Vance.

[dchill]

4. Either way. File file file!

[Ron Fleishman]

8. America is a Joke Now

Something is very seriously wrong with a country which allows a criminal president to pardon a fellow crook. But that's what happens when people keep voting for crooks backed by crooks. How many times must Lobbyists shit on us before we wake up? They're destroying America. This has to stop and it has to stop NOW!
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/04/how-corporate-lobbyists-conquered-american-democracy/390822/

[ehrnst]

9. You do know that the people voted for Hillary over Trump, right?

And Russia was backing anyone who challenged her, right?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/02/17/indictment-russians-also-tried-help-bernie-sanders-jill-stein-presidential-campaigns/348051002/

America didn't vote for a "crook" - they voted for Hillary.

And it's Article II, Section 2 of the United States Constitution that gives POTUS the power to pardon.

So, just how do you propose to stop "this" NOW? What do you suggest that hasn't been thought of?

[NewJeffCT]

10. He won't be able to pardon Manafort or Stone

if they're convicted on state charges.

[ehrnst]

11. Yep. I was clarifying a misconception the previous poster had:

"Something is very seriously wrong with a country which allows a criminal president to pardon a fellow crook."