The whiteness of this fucking whitewash on rich white man Manafort is sickening!

[lunatica]

Today I feel like I need to apologize to every person of color because I belong to a race that includes Trump and his buddies! I am so disgusted at the obvious, blatant, fuck you if you don’t like my white ass privileged judge that I want to spit in his face!

Ugh!

[at140]

1. Manafort sentenced to nearly 4 years in prison

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/433059-manafort-sentenced-to-years-in-prison

Only 47 months? should have been 47 years.

[walkingman]

13. I doubt he serves that long.

[EndGOPPropaganda]

36. No he's going to serve longer: 14 yrs is my guess

DC judge sentencing him next week: up to 10 extra years. After this sentence its very possible she’ll give him the 10-yr max.

He’s going to prison for a long time.

[leftynyc]

48. My hope is the D.C. judge

sentences him the maximum to be served consecutively. That would only begin to make up for what that pig ellis did.

[AncientGeezer]

2. What does the sentence have to do "white ass privileged"

4 yrs for the freak is a long time.

[lunatica]

4. If you need to ask

I certainly can’t explain it in simpler language. The entire incident reeks of rich white privilege.

It’s a prime example of what people of color are talking about when they talk about institutionalized racism.

[iluvtennis]

29. +++ agree. American justice is not equal for all. Depends on what social economic/racial lane

you reside in.

[LibDemAlways]

31. "With liberty and justice for all well to do white guys...."

[mitch96]

52. This kinda sums it up for me..

[LakeArenal]

6. I'm ancient as well. I know what it has to do with privilege.

[jrthin]

12. Tell that to a black man's family who got killed by the police for

selling one loose cigarette.

[malaise]

14. Check out the sentencing guidelines on this one

Four years is a long time for a 69 year old but this was a ridiculously low sentence.

[SHRED]

16. It's not a long time considering

Link to tweet

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. Judge is a trumper, hates Mueller...PRICK

[EndGOPPropaganda]

37. Wanna bet the judge watches Fox

And believes the Fox lies?

[certainot]

38. this won't be the first time in these trump cases that judges come to trump/republican aid

and with 1500 radio stations and fox pissing and crapping in the jury pools and intimidating judges americans can expect more of this shit.

maybe a lot more. that element - rw media lying and lying without challenge - needs to end

[uponit7771]

17. Judge Ellis sentenced Rep Bill Jefferson***A BLACK MAN*** to 13 yrs for white collar crimes.

[atreides1]

51. He sentenced a white man to 40 years

Judge Ellis said that the sentence was excessive and said “The only thing I can do is express my displeasure. .?.?. I chafe a bit at that, but I follow the law.”

Turner is white and this was his first serious offense, but unlike Manafort, wasn't in the same social class as the judge!

I theorize that when Judge Ellis looked down from his seat, he saw in Manafort, a reflection of himself,and that was a part of his decision to totally ignore the sentencing guidelines in this case!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/judge-laments-40-year-sentence-for-meth-dealer-as-excessive-and-wrong/2018/07/02/f1319b4c-7bd0-11e8-93cc-6d3beccdd7a3_story.html?utm_term=.b571e77a5ff6

[uponit7771]

54. Thx, this is a little better ... class over everything else with these guys. Jus damn

[IronLionZion]

22. Black and brown people have been sentenced to far longer times

for far lesser crimes with less evidence

[atreides1]

30. It's not 4 years

He also received 9 months off for time served...that brings it down to 2 months more then Cohen got!

Manafort will face another sentencing hearing next week in D.C., and he's looking at a maximum of 10 years...which Mueller might ask that Manafort serve that sentence consecutively with the sentence Ellis gave him...it's a good chance that Manafort may end up serving at least 10 years in a federal prison!

We can hope that he serves at least 10 years which will make him 80 by the time he leaves prison...

[Nevilledog]

55. Everyone receives day for day credit upon receiving a prison sentence.

I disagree with Manafort's sentence, but the credit for time served was not a present from the judge here. The only time a judge has discretion about giving back time is when a person is receiving a jail sentence, as opposed to a prison sentence. It's a little more complicated when it comes to pre-sentence credit for jail sentences, but I simplified that as it doesn't apply to Manafort.

[whathehell]

40. It has more to do with money than "white"...Let's see what

R Kelly (finally) gets for a sentence. Bill Cosby got away with serial rape for 30 plus years.

[Solomon]

46. Keep on telling yourself that.

[whathehell]

57. Yeah, right -- Cosby & R Kelly were caught right on time .

[leftynyc]

49. Not for 8 felonies

Are you telling me you think it's fair for him to get virtually the same sentence for being convicted of 8 felonies, lying to prosecutors, telling them he would cooperate and then lying to them as Cohen got for completely cooperating with prosecutors? That's ridiculous and we can only hope the judge next week does what she can to remedy this disgusting sentence that never would have been given to a minority.

[PunkinPi]

50. So glad you asked...

Link to tweet

Paul Manafort’s lenient 4-year sentence — far below the recommended 20 years despite extensive felonies and post-conviction obstruction — is a reminder of the blatant inequities in our justice system that we all know about, because they reoccur every week in courts across America

To Ari's point, this entire thread...

Link to tweet

For context on Manafort’s 47 months in prison, my client yesterday was offered 36-72 months in prison for stealing $100 worth of quarters from a residential laundry room.

Above thread unrolled --> https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1103809139900407808.html

TL;DR of thread -->

READ: For all those now reading this thread, before I go any further: I am not making the argument for *harsher sentences for anyone including Manafort.* I am simply pointing out the outrageous disparity between his treatment and others, disproportionately poor & people of color.

[lancelyons]

53. I agree... I think its more about closeness to Trump privilege or close to Republicans privilege.

Some want to make everything bad, a scenario of white privilege.

I am a older white guy and wish the sentence would have been stiffer but i get tired of seeing everything blamed on whiteness and white privilege.

[uponit7771]

3. K&R, Judge Ellis sentenced Rep Bill Jefferson***A BLACK MAN*** to 13 yrs for white collar crimes.

[lunatica]

7. My point exactly!

You couldn’t have given a better example.

[malaise]

15. Yep

Truth will out

[slumcamper]

24. While race is relevant, this has more to do with WEALTH and PRIVILEGE.

There.

Let the flogging begin.

[whathehell]

41. Agreed. Bill Cosby got away with serial rape for over 30 years

Let's see what kind of sentence R. Kelly finally gets.

[uponit7771]

45. Congressman Jefferson was wealthy enough and he was a congressman so there was privilege. I don't

... see this formoste being about race seeing those two facts being true.

[lunatica]

56. Wealth and privilege is based on racism in this country

I’m not going to claim you’re wrong when you aren’t. But you’re not going deep enough if you think wealth and privilege isn’t about suppression of all others. I will go even further and posit that it can’t exist without denying economic benefits to others.

The plantation industry as it existed in the South existed ONLY because of slavery. If you want to know how deeply slavery is reflected in our present day social foundation start by looking a who built the White House, the very symbol of freedom. It was slave labor and I’m sure some white dude got ALL the credit and the wealth from it. Then go from there.

Then take a look at the farming industry of the past and the present and you can probably guess what I’m going to say. It has brought wealth to the privileged through the labor of oppressed Latinos who are underpaid and exploited n conditions designed to keep them poor and so economically needy that they’ll endure slavelike conditions just to survive. It’s an example of modern day slavery.

I can go on but you get my gist.

[athena]

32. Why am I not surprised.

I feel like throwing up. What a sick, sick place this world is.

[Hoyt]

5. Agree with underlying point of unfairness of sentences to POC. But in this case, Manafort's

sentence is related to crimes before trump -- tax and bank fraud. The next case sentencing is related to trump and will hopefully be more time. Manafort does have to make restitution of $25 Million, so he's broke, shamed, unhealthy and a loser.

[uponit7771]

8. If Manafort was black he'd be all that and in jail longer ... this sentence is screwed up seeing ...

... Ellis's previous sentences involving PoC

[lunatica]

9. If you read Judge Ellis' statement in its entirety

You’ll see that he claims Manafort is an innocent man in all other respects. If you agree with that then you won’t get the general outrage of this lovingly given slap on the wrist.

[athena]

33. My only consolation

is that I suspect Judge Ellis is a deeply unhappy person. He may have made his Trump-loving, Republic' point, but I doubt very much that he's going to get a good night's rest -- not because he's feeling guilty or anything, but because he's clearly a very angry person and probably is beside himself with anger at one person or another, if not the entire world, at any given time.

[onecaliberal]

10. I agree, I'm outraged and I am white. Can't imagine how people of color are feeling.

[lunatica]

11. They've been telling us how they feel since before Black Lives Matter

The movement is not just about violence against Black people. It’s about the systemic racism in our institutions like our schools, job opportunities, equal treatment, Justice and beliefs, and government. The racism is built in and goes unnoticed by those of us who don’t suffer from it. We need to start fixing it or we will never be an equal opportunity Democracy.

[onecaliberal]

42. I know they've been telling us, and we've been witnessing it. I still can't imagine how they must

Be feeling based upon the outrage I feel about it all.

[Nevermypresident]

18. I'm furious and and it is and has been clear to me that "justice" is applied differently to the rich

powerful and connected. It's pathetic.

"blameless life" Are you f_cking kidding me???!!!???????!!!!!!!!

[onecaliberal]

43. If by blameless he means blood soak criminal life, then yes.

[lunatica]

19. .

[Blue_true]

20. The same Judge engaged a high powered Lawyer to figure out a lower sentence

for a 28 year old Black man who was facing an 82 year minimum. So the Judge is a mixed book.

[Liberty Belle]

21. I think it's his ranking as a high level GOP/Trump operative more than his race that is the issue.

If he was poor and white and robbed a liquor store I'm pretty sure he'd be doing more hard time than this.

Given that the judge is a right-winger, party is probably more the reason for his slap on the wrist sentence than race,though that could be a secondary factor.

[lunatica]

23. I was careful to include the word 'rich'

A poor white, or just one that isn’t rich and connected would not get such good treatment, but it’s even worse for a black man in general. Prisons have disproportionally more Blacks than Whites yet Black men don’t commit that disproportionally comparable more crimes.

[Liberty Belle]

39. Yes, the racial disparity in our justice sytem is horrifying.

So is the disparity between rich and poor, as well as the disparity between sentencing for different types of crimes.

Someone selling marijuana is doing far less harm to society than someone selling out our nation to Russia.

[zentrum]

25. Nailed it. Not to

...mention how Javanka was not investigated though there was all the illegality charges surrounding NY TRump Tower condo sales.

[DoctorJoJo]

26. I Expect MisJudge Ellis Will Soon Be Sporting a New Ostrich Jacket!

[VOX]

27. Standing with you. In the 60s, anti-war/pro-human rights white folks had long hair as a signifier.

And also a particular kind of dress: army surplus jackets, Native American moccasins, boots, etc. We were visually identifiable as having a leftward political bent.

There is no such way to stand out from the crowd today. A white hippie-relic has the same privileges as a white securities trader. Or even our piece-of-shit “president,” who is (and let this linger in the mind for an extra moment) currently the freeist person in America. And given today’s ruling, he’s likely to remain so.

[iluvtennis]

34. AOC's tweet on Manafort sentencing - "justice" isn't blind. It's bought

Paul Manafort getting such little jail time for such serious crimes lays out for the world how it’s almost impossible for rich people to go to jail for the same amount of time as someone who is lower income.

In our current broken system, “justice” isn’t blind. It’s bought.

@AriMelber
Paul Manafort’s lenient 4-year sentence — far below the recommended 20 years despite extensive felonies and post-conviction obstruction — is a reminder of the blatant inequities in our justice system that we all know about, because they reoccur every week in courts across America

Link to tweet

[marieo1]

35. What a farce!!

I agree with you completely - that judge shouldn't even be a judge. I do not understand how anyone like this stupid judge ever got appointed to be a judge. He should be disbarred immediately!!!

[Hekate]

44. AKA "The Unbearable Whiteness of Being" -- this is just gawdawful

[leftynyc]

47. Same here

That fucking judge made a mockery of our justice system and should be ashamed of himself although I doubt he has that kind of grace. Truly sickening. We can only hope the judge next week is paying attention and does what she can to remedy this travesty.