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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,010 posts)
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:08 PM Mar 2019

No, Democrats Don't Want to 'Murder' or 'Execute' Babies

Vice President Mike Pence took a break from railing against socialism Friday morning to accuse Democrats of supporting baby murder. “With Democrats standing for late-term abortion and infanticide and a culture of death, I promise you this president, this party and this movement will always stand for the unborn,” he said during a speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference, drawing applause. “We will always defend the unalienable right to life.”




Pence isn’t alone. On Thursday, former Wisconsin governor and eternal ham sandwich evangelist Scott Walker attempted to make a distinction between infanticide and murder, which the Democrats also support, he claims. “By the way, it’s not live-birth abortion. It’s not infanticide,” he said at CPAC. “It is murder if you take the baby home and kill the baby at home. It’s murder. The same thing is true at the hospital.”

Sadly, the view that Democrats support “infanticide” is not exclusive to pro-life extremists like Pence and Walker; it’s becoming the new Republican party line — which is to say Trump tweeted it. “Senate Democrats just voted against legislation to prevent the killing of newborn infant children,” the president wrote on Monday. “The Democrat position on abortion is now so extreme that they don’t mind executing babies AFTER birth … This will be remembered as one of the most shocking votes in the history of Congress. If there is one thing we should all agree on, it’s protecting the lives of innocent babies.”




Trump’s tweets came in response to the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act failing to receive the 60 votes necessary to be brought up for a formal vote in the Senate, with 44 of 47 Democrats voting against it advancing. Sponsored by Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE), the bill states that health care professionals must “exercise the same degree of professional skill, care, and diligence to preserve the life and health” of a child born alive after an abortion attempt as they “any other child born alive at the same gestational age,” regardless of the wishes of the parents.

“This is about the most simple thing you can say,” Sasse said on Fox News after the bill failed. “A baby is a baby, and they have dignity and they have worth. It’s not because they’re powerful; it’s because they’re babies. Today is a sad day in the United States Senate, but I remain hopeful long term, because ultimately the United States Senate today can have a bunch of people — 44 of our members decided to try to stick their head in the sand and pretend that a baby isn’t a baby — but 320 million Americans are going to have conversations around their kitchen table that are going to be more loving and logical.”




The context surrounding the bill is a little more complicated than Sasse and other Republicans want Americans to believe. Earlier this week, the New York Times spoke with Dr. Daniel Grossman, a professor of obstetrics, gynecology and reproductive sciences at the University of California, San Francisco, who explained that an infant being born alive after an attempted abortion is extremely rare. Dr. Kristyn Brandi, a board member of Physicians for Reproductive Health, told Vox that she’d never even heard of such a case. “This is a part of the false narrative around this bill and abortion later in pregnancy,” she said.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/cpac-mike-pence-abortion-802060/
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No, Democrats Don't Want to 'Murder' or 'Execute' Babies (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2019 OP
I would love to ask every single one of those CPAC assholes Pence what they think about the 11 year Pachamama Mar 2019 #1
They have no problem with an 11 year old rape victim Mariana Mar 2019 #4
The last fifteen hundred eighty-five time this has come up 2naSalit Mar 2019 #7
This sounds sick, but then so is Pence TexasBushwhacker Mar 2019 #2
Infanticide Has Always Been Illegal--What is Wrong with These Women-Haters? dlk Mar 2019 #3
They are really trying to make this talking point a thing. Initech Mar 2019 #5
"If you're pre-born, you're fine.... A HERETIC I AM Mar 2019 #6
dems don't kill babies trueblue2007 Mar 2019 #8

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
1. I would love to ask every single one of those CPAC assholes Pence what they think about the 11 year
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:14 PM
Mar 2019

...old in Argentina who was forced to carry her rapists child and not be allowed to have an abortion.



https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/feb/28/girl-11-gives-birth-to-rapists-child-after-argentina-refuses-abortion

These conservative assholes would require the same if they could here in the US...

While they preach and support babies and children taken from immigrants and asylum seekers at the border and also help the Jeffrey Epstein’s of the world.

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
4. They have no problem with an 11 year old rape victim
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:44 PM
Mar 2019

being forced to carry her rapist's child and give birth. Why should that bother them?

2naSalit

(86,646 posts)
7. The last fifteen hundred eighty-five time this has come up
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 12:22 AM
Mar 2019

they said they're all good with that. Besides, baby killing is their gig.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,194 posts)
2. This sounds sick, but then so is Pence
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 10:30 PM
Mar 2019

Perhaps we need to bombard his Twitter account with pictures of fetuses with profound and fatal abnormalities; anencephaly for example or harlequin ichthyosis. While any parent can certainly choose to bring such an afflicted a child into the world, I think most parents would consider an abortion of such a child as an act of mercy.

Initech

(100,079 posts)
5. They are really trying to make this talking point a thing.
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:06 PM
Mar 2019

And that is scary. No one is murdering babies, no one.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,370 posts)
6. "If you're pre-born, you're fine....
Fri Mar 1, 2019, 11:19 PM
Mar 2019

if you're pre-school, you're fucked"

- George Carlin, speaking about conservatives.

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